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Developer Insights : Booths

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kris | Cyrene, Oct 29, 2016.

  1. Justine
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    If i get enought luck to get 1 of these booth i would not rent it. I prefer use it and sell cheap all weapons i find in loot. My storage is full of Cyrene L and UL weapons and usually i tt them. I prefer sell them cheap, this is best than TT :)
    I just hope items slot are over 50. If you count 1 weapon of each sort (riffl, handgun, BLP, Laser, plasma, gauss and for different level), this ishuge !
    And i don't speak if i want put IMP BE Armor Male and Female or other armor type :)
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    I agree with previous post, Player recommendation by other players is too risky. I propose, Cyrene staff should recommand this player.

    Cyrene Citizen, how you will choose it ? By time spend in the planet, by achievement ? Achievement is the best proof for a Cyrene Citizen, especially with One of us achievement + other hunting/mining achievement.

    I can't wait for events !!!

    Cheers :p
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    I like the idea of temporary ownership to prevent booths from getting deserted but other parts are just too complex. Can't we just bid on AH the right to use that booths for next 3 months? I would setup bidding in a way that each week there is something to bid on. It's simple and would keep resellers away too. Nobody will put peds for privilege to keep booth unused for 3 months :p
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    I don't like this idea. This will give privilege only to guys with pedcard and not for Cyrene players. That wiill kill the main idea, to give some privilege to Cyrene players and not to other planets players.
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    i have a better idea, put these six booths in auction house for sale and add some more to give out as reward.. so, everyone will be happy

    (as long you had these booths in your planet for some years, making players believe that they'll be for sale, is bad to decide not to sell them, is like you make fun of us hopping to get something we see for years and then you say, sry, we are not gonna sell it)
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    Booths that aren't permanently owned would eliminate the empty/afk "investors" infestation.
    But there's other types of owners like those that stock a booth/shop with crafts, loots, uber-weapons/gear, etc. jack-up the prices and walk away for months+.

    But hey what do I know, I'm just a client/consumer who likes to run around see what's hiding in shops.
    And it seems to me that only a few owners take it seriously enough to change things from time to time.

    So I say keep off AH to avoid "investors" and avoid a plague of pre-launch empty booths.
    Give the booths to to players active on Cyrene and see what sales they can generate.
    And that's what Cyrene devs are proposing so a booth proprietor needs to make actual sales and real fast.
    And that's were it'll be interesting to find out who can actually cut it in the sales dept.
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    Btw I don't want to sound like na ass, but not having hard launch for 5 years is something that I consider before buying/renting shop, land or grind daily tokens or doing missions. Cyrene looked like it will have very good and interesting gameplay, not just mindless grinding, but this delay is bigger than SC and they started without the platform. I hope you guys are not waiting for the next CryEngine update to start making your planet. Make Cyrene great again. but soonisher please
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    I like the booths idea. This will let us test it and give an idea what is a realistic price to pay for a Cyrene booth.
    This will also screw up the deed re-sellers, as we know what price would be acceptable to pay.
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    I have a shop at Deer Mall on my home planet Calypso for a number of years and it has been a good experience. I think Cyrene is doing well and has done a good job of keeping us informed. I enjoy spending as much time here as I can because it is new and fresh and different from the many years spent on Calypso.

    I have seen booths there for some time and have the feeling that they would best set up as the original post suggests possibly, or of course I like my idea below.

    Example: rent monthly to avatar, if rented already, then add me to waiting list to get in line for rental, I must then confirm my position in line on monthly basis or get dropped off the list, you can only have your name on the list once.

    In the event that the avatar that is next on the list does not rent or just forgets then the booth is up for rental for the first person that comes to rent it, from the time it wasn't rented to the end of the month. The price gets cheaper per week lost of the month. Example: If Joe Avatar is next in line and on the 1st of the month he does not rent it, then it is available to rent to anyone (it does not go to the next person in line on the list), then for each week that it is not rented the rental rate is cut by 25%. If it rents the last week of the month rental rate is just 25% of the original and then at the end of the month the next person on the list has the right to rent for the full month at 100% rate.

    This would keep the booths evenly rentable between low skill and high skill avatars. Confirming position on waiting list would thwart dead avatars and waiting list campers (people that would get on the list just to be on it and not rent it).

    The idea being that these are Flea Market oriented, knowing in the future that "brick and mortar" retail stores would be created and then owned by deed similar to Calypso, as Cyrene grows and once the market supports it.
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    Oh oh you wrote that "R" word... :eek:

    It's old topic and Devs probably have everything worked out by now.
    But still i'll join your rated "R" concept. :D
    Suggest only 1 year no rentals list instead of lifetime ban because things happen.
    The time when it goes up for sale must be random to avoid time-zone favoritism.
    The shop deed should clearly state must keep booth reasonably stocked with sellable products or you might receive notice requesting maintenance be done and failure to do so might return to the pool of renters before month end.
    Booths take token payment of maybe 15 ped/month for first year to kick starting some economy?
    This could show if all booth renters are still playing and a way for Cyrene to keep well stocked booths.
    Devs need a button on terminal so players can "request restock" to automatically notify booth owner and somehow keep an eye on when booth owner restocks, so if no restock in 5 days the devs get a notice then.
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    So what happened? Anyone got a booth?
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    No booth available atm :(

    Kris any ETA about this great idea ? You when MA will allow you to give these booth ?
    We really need an improvment for Cyrene Economy and booth will help alot !!

    Crossing fingers for the next PP VU :)
  14. Kris | Cyrene
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    Hey Justine,

    Just hammering out the final details with MA, should have more to share as we get closer to the VU.

    Cheers,
    Kris
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    Awesome !! :thumbup:
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    While some people manifested their worries that they might not be interested in bothering with this if it's only about three hours and they kinda requested guarantees that they will be able to prolong their rent indefinitely, my worries are more about the fact that the first people that would take them would keep renewing the lease, monopolise them and the late comers will never have a chance.

    So what I would suggest would be to allow active renters to extend the renting period to a new quarter, but at an ever increasing cost so hey would eventually have to give up and give a chance to the other people on the waiting list. So maybe the first quarter could be free as you said, the second quarter could cost 100 PED, the third quarter could cost 250 PED, the fourth quarter 500 PED, the fifth quarter 1,000 PED and so on. When someone would give up and a new renter would come in they would start over from free.

    Also, I would limit this to people actively playing on Cyrene, maybe something like having at least one global every month during the last six months since that could be easily verifyable... dunno.

    ... just my 2 cents ...
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    As i understand with this system, its free. It's for help current players to create a better economy on Planet Cyrene and it's until the full release (ie Hard launch). This is a temporary system. I understand what you mean with late comers. I think they have a chance to get one if they stay on planet. As you can see there 3 booth for :

    1 - Cyrene Citizen

    2- Player Recommendation

    3 - Scavenger Hunt (Developer Lead)

    That mean developer can change every quarters.
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    What I meant was in relation to this part of the OP "2) If the booth owner keeps their shop active and upkeep maintained, we may allow the continued ownership of that booth for additional time (in quarterly increments)."

    This means that once six active owners are found then they might keep getting additional time and no one else would have a chance to take advantage of the same opportunity.

    And to make it clear, I don't talk hear about me. I only sweat, so is not like I could qualify as active on the planet or anything, it was just about a principle that if this is done, then not only six people should be able to profit off it ad infinitum.
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    :rolleyes:It is a pity to have waited so long bad timing or rather reboost timing, good luck has all :clap:
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    Instead of doing only a small number of booths, what about doing a larger number with smaller number of item points... so if it is 6 booths or whatever, and they would normally be 10 slots each, why not just do 30 with 2 slots each?

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