1. Welcome to Planet Cyrene Forum!

    You appear to be browsing cyreneforum.com as a guest user. Did you know that if you sign up with an account, you get access to all kinds of additional privileges, and are then able to join the discussions?

    Already a member? Login Now!

Token trader dont have weapons available.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kenji, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. kenji
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    kenji Active Member
    Cool

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2012
    Messages:
    195
    Likes Received:
    91
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    Society:
    Cyreans
    Hello all and Cyrene dev team.

    Can we have a restock on the weapons from the Cyrene mission token trader please ?
    Trying to get a weapon for few days now and there are none available.

    Thanks in advance!
  2. Thanatos
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Thanatos Fate Thanatos Themis
    Doubtful

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    716
    Likes Received:
    343
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Home page:
    Society:
    Task Force
    its same for ARC Faction vendor
  3. Haruto Rat
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Haruto Rat eep!
    Cynical

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Messages:
    273
    Likes Received:
    259
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you mean that decay info on Entropedia is not correct and 2.H.T.S. Scorpion (L) at 1700% does not have lovely 2.694 dpp? (well, 2.821 with an A103, but still not that good) Or is there something else I'm missing? :eyes:
  4. harmony
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    harmony Well-Known Member
    Busy

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    I think they haven't been available for two months at least, do they get restocked automatically every x days/weeks or does it get set with a PP-update?

    (not whining, just curious to figure out how it works, should i re-check daily or just wait till a new version comes along).
  5. Thanatos
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Thanatos Fate Thanatos Themis
    Doubtful

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    716
    Likes Received:
    343
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Home page:
    Society:
    Task Force
    guns in cyrene mission vendor were restocking in time, but slowly, this vu. some1 is buying all right after they pop out there, or the restock has stopped this month.
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2015
  6. Sub-Zero
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Sub-Zero Active Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2012
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    This is why they should limit the amount of guns you can buy per account and increase the stock limit. Also I'm not sure if the cyrene mission token are tradeable but if they are they should disable that. That way one can't buy the tokens and "clean house".

    People would still be able to sell the weapons from cyrene mission tokens etc. Just won't be able to buy the tokens so they would have to earn them and that would make it fair for all.
    krasko likes this.
  7. Paul Jetman Masters
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Paul Jetman Masters Well-Known Member
    Mellow

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    342
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South Yorkshire
    i saw a HTS scorpion on the AH a couple of weeks ago, at like 2400%. i'm not ingame atm so i can't check, but isn't 150 tokens 1.50ped and the gun 15ped? therefore 170% and a dmg/pec 2.864 unamped (if the decay is correct)
  8. Thanatos
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Thanatos Fate Thanatos Themis
    Doubtful

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    716
    Likes Received:
    343
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Home page:
    Society:
    Task Force
    lets make things easier to count: 150 tokens = 1,5ped tt ; if @ 2000% MU = 30ped
    most of the dmg cost comes from the ammo burn (decay here is 0.41% of the total cost), so the MU of the gun itself has a little imapact on the overall eco
  9. Gisela Dawes
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Gisela Dawes Member
    Cool

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2014
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Society:
    The head hunters
    Sub-Zero, making the cyrene mission tokens untradeable wont be fair to those of us who work hard grinding them each day to sell them.
  10. Sub-Zero
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Sub-Zero Active Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2012
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    What is the difference of selling it if u can just buy the gun and sell it instead?
    The main difference is that you earned the tokens thus u can choose to use the gun'/s or sell them. Instead of a rich dude buying a lot of tokens and then cleaning house.

    Just imagine if caly daily tokens were tradeable. How much chaos it would cause so many guns on the market etc. It could happen to cyrene as well, if it gets bigger.

    A daily mission for tokens should be earned otherwise there's no point in calling it a daily.
  11. Haruto Rat
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Haruto Rat eep!
    Cynical

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Messages:
    273
    Likes Received:
    259
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    It would then take one about three years to gather tokens for an Ozpyn Beetle armor set, so no, I don't see this happening.
  12. Gisela Dawes
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Gisela Dawes Member
    Cool

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2014
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Society:
    The head hunters
    The difference is that the token market is local, while selling the weapons will require to travel, making it less profitable. Specially for new players.

    I do agree that something should be done to prevent one player to empty the trader stock tough. Perhaps using a cooldown period to all token traders, just like the boffins have (maybe not as long tough), while reducing the amount of items you can purchase each time to just one would give all of us the chance to get weapons from the trader.
    kjellings likes this.
  13. Kris | Cyrene
    • Administrator
    • Moderator
    • Cyrene Staff
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Kris | Cyrene Lo and Behold, the Fixer of Bugs Staff Member
    Cool

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2011
    Messages:
    1,260
    Likes Received:
    1,232
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    A man of many hats and talents.
    Location:
    Chiang Mai, Thailand // Orange County, CA
    Home page:
    Hey guys,

    I will talk to MA about this, right now everything it set up based on criteria that we've got from them, but I do feel that the stock could be more plentiful.

    I'll be watching this thread for all the feedback!

    Cheers,
    Kris
  14. Thanatos
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Thanatos Fate Thanatos Themis
    Doubtful

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2012
    Messages:
    716
    Likes Received:
    343
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Home page:
    Society:
    Task Force
    why the decay here is 0.41% of the total cost here?

    according to the entropedia, the ammo burn is 723, and the decay is 0,003pec.
    so 3 / 726 = 0,0041322314049587 ; * 100 (to get the %) gives us the number that is the percent of decay in overall cost in this gun. if even the of the gun MU is 4000%, then it will be jus the 14% of total cost of the gun shot.

    many guns got the decay like 2pec, and ammo burn of 1400, then the gun MU impact on the cost is much stronger:
    for example 130% MU gives [ (2000*130%)/(2600+1400)=95% ]

    yup, im just trying to confuse u :)
  15. harmony
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    harmony Well-Known Member
    Busy

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    592
    Likes Received:
    258
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male

    And the award for understatement of the year goes to..... :)
    Seriously though, the guns aren't that good, there really should be a near unlimited amount of them in the vendors.
    krasko likes this.
  16. krasko
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    krasko Active Member
    Blah

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2014
    Messages:
    343
    Likes Received:
    202
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Society:
    North Cyreans
    Maybe we all should submit support tickets regarding the out of stock vendors? This for sure will bring MA's attention on this topic. :)
  17. Paul Jetman Masters
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Paul Jetman Masters Well-Known Member
    Mellow

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    342
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South Yorkshire
    problem is the cyrene team is charged for each support case, so it would end up hurting the C team
  18. krasko
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    krasko Active Member
    Blah

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2014
    Messages:
    343
    Likes Received:
    202
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Society:
    North Cyreans
    Cyrene team is charged for a bad implementation from MA developers?!
  19. Paul Jetman Masters
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Paul Jetman Masters Well-Known Member
    Mellow

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2014
    Messages:
    485
    Likes Received:
    342
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South Yorkshire
    i think MA would just pass the buck
  20. OZtwo
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    OZtwo Active Member
    Buzzed

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2012
    Messages:
    215
    Likes Received:
    62
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Gender:
    Male
    Society:
    Vikings Of Entropia
    Well it's up to the Cyrene team to fill it really. NI has ran into the same issue long time ago. It's up to the PP to keep new players coming so in the end they have to pay for these items. So we have a slow order or well :)
    krasko likes this.

Share This Page