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Quick look at Roys Armor

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Shawna | Cyrene, Jun 6, 2021.

  1. Shawna | Cyrene
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    Quick look at Roys armor


    Male armor
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    Female armor
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    Roy's Dialogue
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    Stay safe out there :bye:
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    eh i expect to look much better
     
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    Kinda too similar to A.R.C Guardian/A.R.C Pilot mix. Imo I had expected it to be a new design armor. While I do understand he was "ex imperium pilot". No reason that he would've continued to use same imperium pilot after he no longer was a pilot.

    Even Next Island designed new armor model for the Titan armor (recolor of Ascension armor) that is a new model armor.

    Kinda disappointed, but to each their own. Hopefully the stats make up for it. I would love if some more work gets put to the design of this armor in a future VU.
     
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    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to make a note here: After first seeing the Titan Armor from Next Island, it was mentioned by us that Roy Vulker's armor would be similar, and that's still true in total protection, you can see the stats below:

    Roy Vulker's Armor Stats.png

    However, after seeing a post later by Socrates on the NI forum I did want to let everyone know that there is no set bonus for this armor.

    Cheers,
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    This was asked on discord so I am posting it here for everyone who only reads the forums.

    "the new armor its supposed to drop in any maturity of the mobs listed or just higher maturities?"


    -The short answer is yes but for some monsters the higher maturity only because of the level of the creature. Like a young tide claw would have a very hard time dropping this item.
     
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    hmm it mostly pvp armor, no buffs but still ok
     
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    I did repetable on Dominants... NO CHANCE EITHER (ask pablo too... he did the same...)
     
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    Do you have to visit the NPC to start this mission? If so loc? Tks!
     
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    I dont want to ruin the party, but in my opinion the armor is way to far from what is a Titan, even naked ( no evade/reduce crit bonus )

    * an armor is notmade to be pointed toward a single mob, is made to fit at least few top mobs in order to have his value at the right spot, and titan is made for the best mobs in game and can be used for most of the time. Events included.
    * an armor if is to be compared to other armor, is not only the need to have the exact number of protections altogether, is the ability to protect for the same/ almost same number of large creatures based on importance and value in MU those mobs drop.
    * an armor it supposed to give mid players the ability to jump in front 2-3 steps and hunt larger mobs.
    * an armor is not made for uber players, those can coexist peacefully hunting anything they want, because they have skills and lots of defense options. Yes if they ware it, they become invincible, is the point of the MMO/RCE/Pay to play/ whatever , because other can look at them and inspire them to move forward ( anyway this was a personal conclusion )

    - those are personal notes based on my experience having second best armor in game ( modified shadow/unique lady kraster )

    Cyrene armor is far from Titan, by lots

    quick compare - ( maybe few stats are not accurate on wiki, my source )
    Roy Vulker
    Cyrene - Duster/Drill Bot ( single mobs who have burn highest from all cyrene mobs 33.33% )
    - Willes/Rincho/ Imperium Pilot-(scarry) ( creature who have 50% but penetration, and 0 burn, so u half protected )
    Universal - for burn/pene are some robots that are not a high priority for anything in this game, just regular mobs, few exceptions but decent enough to live, Drone/Harbinger/Trooper/Oratan
    PvP armor- indeed serves this purpose but, for that part are (L) sets that decay 5 ped/year i'd say is no need to use an expensive UL armor for.

    Titan
    Cyrene - Skull Bird/Empis/Tide Claw/Vlanwing/Rhino/
    Universal - Eomon/Kingfisher?scipulor/Formidon/Osse/Marcimex/Eviscerator/Levi/Scoria...and many more

    For this new armor i see the burn is placed first as importance, and mind me pls, but if it was at least a cyrene dedicated armor should have mean mobs who has most of the dmg burn, but isnt, so i dont see the logic, Cyrene has no burn mob priority ....anyway

    if i were to be asked, but i m not :)) , all i can say is i m not upset or even surprised, it is as it is, good things happen elsewhere, but i can say i m happy something moves and is a step, to me this means much more than that armor.


    armura.jpg stab mobs.jpg impact mobs.jpg burn mobs.jpg penetration mobs.jpg

    my 2 pecs :goodbee:
     
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    No you don't. All you need to do is read his dialogue from above and it will tell you what mobs you need to hunt.

    Stay safe out there :bye:
     
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    5000000% AGREE, i couldn't say it better or that kind :)
     
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    well said i agree on this
     
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    I had to come back since my post was made in a short window at work.

    bear me pls for a bit more

    this had more sense for cyrene, in my humble opinion but again, is just a personal touch and not my intention to diminish Devs work.

    For the start let's be fair :D Roy is 175 points and Titan 180,

    Roy Vulker + Perfected Imperium Platings


    Stab...............10.................8....................18
    Cu.....................................20....................20
    Impact...............................24....................24

    Penetration.....45........................................45
    Shrapnel.........35........................................35
    Burn...............20.................20...................40

    Cold...............25........................................25
    Electric...........25........................................25
    Acid...............25.........................................25

    total..............185.................72................= 257
    ( why not here +5 )

    fit for every mid lvl player to be able to hunt anything on Cyrene and not only
    best version of Eon armor, good for pvp and robots

    cheers !
     
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    Maybe MA will not agree with that.... BUT at least they can do a PURE PVP ARMOUR !
    Penetration.....60
    Shrapnel.........60
    Burn...............60

    OR
    Penetration.....60
    Shrapnel.........60
    Burn...............40 (to use with perfected for 60)
    Stab.....20 .....

    For the rest of electric cold acid we have DSEC .... no need to spread on all,.... JUST MAKE IT BEST on SOMETHING !
    imagine LGs, PVPs, BOTS, VANGUARDS !!! etc :)))
     
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    Greed the final frontier. I only commented about its lame looks. The stats are dope and good enough. They aren't gonna change the stats and it's a bit silly to ask them that. The item stats have been finalized and gone through MA's balancing team before going to the live servers. If you feel the item stats ain't worth your time then go get the titan armor, or the dsec armor.
     
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    as u can see, i didnt asked for a change ( tho my words are pretty clear above ) it is impossible that, i said ... "it is as it is...i m not upset or surprised, i m happy things move, and i appreciate a step forward",

    u struggle to much to get my attention so i say u this, did u saw the stats compared to old pregold rusty existing sets ( stats ) ? those already exists in game, what approval do u think this stats needed? is not near Eon 215 total points of protection ( i owned a set )....dude is pregold....15y old armor, u know...alcatel...iphone kind of thing.

    Eon F set 12-15k
    Eon M set 20-23k

    Titan F set 50k
    Titan M set 75k

    this was said based on my expertise, and is my experience,

    beside that i can and i will go hunt for Titan, is more fit for my need,

    if the stats ar so "dope" i let u hunt for the Roy Vulker, u r "dope" too, u have BP-70 Perfected so u dont have to be worried about returns, is going to be cheap for u to get a male set, i m sure will be under 20-23-25k ped, and when u have a full set, go out and hunt Imperium Pilots and other special burn mobs, i wish u all the best collecting data from them all going thru all repeatable codex, and have your own expertise to share and enlight me/us, u can have them all, be greedy as u want , or not,

    intelligence and constructive criticism is a rarity and is not for everyone.
     
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    Considering you didn't understood our complains let me try remake it:
    Mindark fucked up again Cyrene!!! nobody said is cyrene fault, all comments were to point out the huge disadvantage MA did!
    1. check plates... for example the cost to make augmented on cyrene around 10k ped per plate compared with 4500 on caly or 5500 on NI.
    2. the new armour, no buff no nothing... less the eon.... Cyrene have it's best armour being under any other planet. dkoa on arkadia, dsec, titan, eon supremacy shadow etc on caly.
    WHY???? Why Cyrene is under every other planet????
    That's why we complain not about the armour quests etc. themselfs. That's an amazing progress. BUT the rewards????? why cyrene not equal with the rest???? why it have the worst gear????
    Kris u must ask Mindark for clarification asap. Is not fair is not normal!!!!


    ps: sub-zero do not confuse greed with fairness... shooting hundred of thousands of peds, loosing tens of thousands for a reward.... well u wamt a good reward. wondering why no hunters here??? becouse always something way better on other planets. How is this fair??????
     
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    Hey guys,

    This has been a very constructive thread, and I'd like to thank everyone for their feedback and information.

    Normally I'd go through each post and talk a little about each point that got made, but then we start getting into territory that I'm not sure how much I can share without getting into trouble, so I'll skip that for now.

    Where we go from here and what we do with this information I'm not sure yet, my gut reaction is to pull it back before it gets discovered, but maybe it's okay to be out now, but with less rarity. Maybe just leave the Limited version in and save the UL for another armor. Maybe let it ride and keep moving forward.

    I have a lot of conversations to have and this jumped up on the list substantially.

    For now, I'm going to leave this thread open, but I don't want to have any other attacks to other players sharing their viewpoints in here. I will close it and edit posts if I need to. There's a good conversation happening and if anyone else has anything to contribute please post it here about the armor.

    I understand about the look, but it fit the story of Roy (that we have been waiting to tell for some time now) so I was okay with it, it's hard to compete with some of the other armor looks we have had on Cyrene.

    Cheers,
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    if i may,

    1. The Roy Vulker is part of an mission we were told about long long ago, the story has a meaning and an end, culminate to this set, it can be kept as rare, a side armor for PP/Cyrene, is not a big deal and cant change drastically the game, can be kept for few sets, here and there, idk something to fill the story. This can be discussed fwd to MA and asked for a few sets to fit this mission.

    but the armor i love to see an UL version of it is....wanted for some time to say this :D, didn't got the chance

    2. I.S.O.R kind of, so far are 2 and i looted parts of it, some green'sh similar to Stolen palette ( seen one on Mike Freyr, a full set..insane, also my fav. ), and a light blue version.
     
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    Hey guys,

    Since the VU on June 1st, we’ve been taking a long look at the new items and their drop rates, as well as talking to MA and providing information to them and asking for adjustments to get done.

    Roy’s Armor is a bit of a sticking point, as even after looking at it with MA, the drop rates for it are much too rare. Due to this, I think it’s in the players best interest for us to not allow the unlimited version to drop, which will give us more design space to either re-work or choose another unlimited armor for the future.

    Many players have reached out to me or Shawna in game, here on the forums, or on Discord to say that in the Entropia Universe of 2021, unlimited armor of this level needs to have some kind of buff on it. I’m really a big fan of buffs, and I’m inclined to agree with this sentiment. I think the goal was to have more of an Eon type of armor for Cyrene, but ended up falling a bit flat.

    After the summer, we will be re-adjusting the parameters for the Limited Roy’s Armor and have it drop more consistently to allow his story to be told. I hope that everyone is understanding and will see that in the long run this will be an overall benefit to Planet Cyrene players as a whole.

    Cheers,
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