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Refurbished FAP bug

Discussion in 'Developer's Corner' started by Angel O2 Mercer, Sep 20, 2020.

  1. Angel O2 Mercer
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    Hello,

    The Refurbished H.E.A.R.T. FAP (the one you get after doing a mission chain, material inputs and all that) is currently bugged, and it seems it has been bugged for a very long time.

    MA introduced a feature a while ago that compensated players for decay spent on mobs that are turreted, you got the decay back. But this does NOT happen exclusively with this cyrene FAP.

    This also puts into question the whole "decay is compensated in loot" when you heal yourself while hunting, which is even worse.

    I have been using this fap heavily for over 2 years as this is the only FAP I need and the only one I have.

    Are you aware of this? Do you plan yo fix it? what about compensation? (I know the last one is probably a decision only MA can make).

    Do you plan to change the next upgrade path so that we get rid of this bug? (removing the heal over time but keeping the high eco due to the 150% heals).

    Here is a link to the original thread on PCF, but I have tested it myself and the FAP is absolutely bugged.

    Any info would be very appreciated, thank you !!!
     
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    I was the one asking avalon to record and test it , it all reported mindark is looking into that
     
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    Hey Angel O2 Mercer,

    Bella brought this to our attention some time ago, and we have reported the player findings directly to MindArk.

    This FAP wasn't/hasn't been changed on ourside since it's implementation, so we're already talking to MindArk about what is going on with it and how it address this issue.

    Currently we don't know what is causing the issue, but if it's the heal over time for example, we don't want to repeat the same issue for any future mission in the series.

    I'll make sure to include this for MindArk as well.

    ^ the TL;DR

    Cheers,
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    Thank you very much bella and Kris :)
     
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    Hey guys,

    So after some time, internal testing on both our and MA's parts, and trying several different solutions, we are unable to fix this item without making changes to it.

    We've discussed at length with MA already and we will be changing this item to have a greatly reduced or removed heal over time component to allow it to work properly.

    The change we finalize will be posted here and it will come with the next Planet Partner VU.

    Cheers,
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    It is extremely counterintuitive to accept that it can't be fixed when at the same time many other items exist with the very same features and no such problems. The only distinguishing factor (from this side of the fence) being its origin by a planet partner conjures up rather disturbing theories (esp. in context of and fuelled by other "events"). Without further evidence to dispel them there is a risk that some will stick.
     
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    Hey guys,

    So I wanted to elaborate more about the H.E.A.R.T. VI.

    I did try to push for opening the new missions and not make adjustments to the Rank VI, but for the time being it was decided that the best way is to reduce the Heal over Time component. I just got word today that it will be a reduction, not a removal, of the Heal over Time component until it works correctly.

    The way the change will work is that there will be an upfront heal, then a heal over time applied to the avatar. I’m not sure if there’s other healing tools like this in game but the FAP in the Hub works this way. No other changes will be applied, so no adjustments to the economy of the Rank VI, it should still be as efficient as it currently is.

    I’m going to put up a poll here (and Discord as well) for players to choose if they’d rather have or not have a Heal over Time component. I’d be interested to know what players would choose if given the option, and some have expressed that to me already, and the opinions seem to be quite split.

    I feel confident that if we wait more time with MindArk that this item could be truly fixed and not changed, however, it’s already been so long that I think it’s better to make it right as soon as possible and keep looking for answers in the interim.

    Lastly, one of the things that we’ve been trying to do going forward is to make sure there’s more upfront in-game knowledge for quest items (like what has been done for the Armor Plate Missions) and this will be applied retroactively to this mission chain for the next PP VU. Ideally it will become the standard for players to be able to get as much information from the game as possible.

    >> POLL LINK <<

    If you have any opinions that you’d like to share more about healing tools or buffs in general please share them.

    Cheers,
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    The Hub FAP does not have a heal over time effect.

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    Hey guys,

    So after seeing the poll results as well as hearing back from MA, I believe that we have a fix coming for the next PP VU.

    The Heal Over Time effect will be reduced from 150% for 5 seconds down to 90% for 5 seconds, which in our testing allows this item to correctly give back shrapnel.

    You can see the item information from our test server here:
    Heart VI Changes - Going live next VU.png

    I know that some players won't be happy with these changes, and would rather the HoT be removed or for us to move onto the next stage. These are both things that we're working to allow for the future, if players want to have a Rank VI that has no HoT component, we'd like to offer that as well as a lateral change to this item. Same for opening up new ranks, but we're not able to move forward with that yet.

    For the next Planet Partner Version Update, the change you see in the item information above will come to the Refurbished H.E.A.R.T. Rank VI.

    Cheers,
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    Awesome way to fix problem, after 1 year, all what was need- it is nerf... Now H.E.A.R.T. Rank VI almost same as Vivo s10
     

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