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FIXED old alpha zeladoths bug abuse

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jellyfish

Not suffering from insanity, enjoying it very much
seems the old alpha zeladoths are not attacking..

so alot of people are there afk-sweating them
 

coz1969

New Member
Edit: Since OP has been edited, there's no need for this rant...

But yeah, it does suck if there are exploitable bugs that people don't report. All we can do is send those bug reports in, and also send in reports about the exploiters (to MA/PP... not to forum users)
 

Agis

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I noticed alot of people hunting the Wiles, even though the mob previously dealt 194 damage on my angel. Im suprised how a lot of people can hunt that mob it hits fast , has 4000HP and has quite significant regen , are they exploiting them or what or do they deal less damage now after the VU or are they trapping them behind the rocks... I wonder. ?
 

jellyfish

Not suffering from insanity, enjoying it very much
Same way some people hunt leviathans on caly without armor.
Though you can kill the wiles with just alot of revives.
 

non

Well-Known Member
this is disappointing and depressing that people would still be doing this after being told repeatedly that it was a bug and exploit.

i wish you would have kept it more ingeneral and not mentioned the mob that was being exploited now we are going to have more people doing it. things like this are best reported to devs through private conversations. but now that its out in the open perhaps we will see it and the other bugged mobs fixed or removed.

the most serious part of this is that it is so hard to be a new player on cyrene and this makes it even harder for new players that need the extra bit of ped from sweating to get by. this is my main problem with this we should all want new players to be able to find a place on cyrene so that it can grow and become a better planet.
also on a more selfish note i put in a lot of hard work to get to sweat gatherer lvl 24. spent lots of ped healing synching and killing dry mobs. but atleast i have the skills gained from sweating and getting hit by pedes.

i wish this bug would have been fixed before now so i wouldnt feel so conflicted about i am sure some friends in soc exploiting this obvious bug. but it is them that made the choice to exploit no one forced them and on the occasions that they were seen to be doing this they were warned.

its a sad day for Syndicate of Fenris but one that i am glad has come. issues will be forced to a head people will be kicked and some including myself may leave over this and other issues.

maybe i am naive lame and dumb but i feel that there is something wrong with exploiting some thing or in other words cheating but its how i feel and its been eating away at me for awhile now.

glad the issue is out in the open and i had a chance to vent my frustrations with it, and yes i am partly responsible for people knowing about this bug. when i first found it i told a few people i trusted in hindsight this was a mistake and i am sorry for it. but my regrets mean nothing only actions count and mine were a mistake.
 

Agis

Well-Known Member
Same way some people hunt leviathans on caly without armor.
Though you can kill the wiles with just alot of revives.

Yeah but revive killing can be a pain , especially after all that time you have gone back and forth from the revive once you kill the mob you loose ALOT of ped unless you global or hof. I tried revive killing the Wiles spent like 40ped revive killing it only to get just over 10ped loot back lol, tried it 3 or 4 times took 1 hour or so, never again unless i get a decent ranged gun. But i noticed now you dont get penalised if the mob becomes unreachable, maybe thats making it easier and less costly, make the Water PVP flagged like the Zynkimbo continent, that may solve the issue. Cheers:)
 

Kris | Cyrene

Lo and Behold, the Fixer of Bugs
Staff member
Hey guys,

Saw this old bug hasn't been squished properly, going to get this one corrected A.S.A.P.

Cheers,
Kris
 

jellyfish

Not suffering from insanity, enjoying it very much
now that you are aware of it, can you please delete this thread?

apparently ALOT of people have been very upset with me reporting it lol

they want their easy cash and don't care that new players can't compete with afk sweaters.. poor guys. they can hate me as much as they want though. i'd rather give the new guy a chance than trying to make the exploiters love me.

*edit*
just to make it clear and avoid another flame war, this post im making here is reffering to a couple of individuals and not any society or anything like that.
 

Thanatos

Fate Thanatos Themis
well i reported that mob issue long time ago, so dont be sorry about that.

only thing u can be sorry is the fact that u report such bugs publicly, so before they are fixed, they get abused even more. :monkey_slap:
 

jellyfish

Not suffering from insanity, enjoying it very much
I have to agree 100% thanatos, but too late to undo it. All i could do was to ask the mods to delete the thread, and i did.
 
peeps will find the bug anyway.... so calling out the mob may cause more to exploit it, but also cause the developers to do some thing quicker.. so dont kick yourself jelly its good that you publicly exposed .. hell with the results, developers need to get on this A.S.A.P now for sure ;).. I got a better idea make it pvp there that way some Vigilantes and go and kill a few exploiters .. sounds fun :shoot:
 

jetsina

Active Member
Yeah, there was a sweat exploit on Caly once where mobs got stuck at server borders. It was fixed after public exposure. As I have seen various 'bugs' and 'opportunities' go unnoticed by most for quite a while even on highly populated Caly, I would say the problem is more about whether something is a bug or a little-known feature. It sure is annoying if a 'feature' suddenly gets swamped because it is made public, but is not actually an exploit at all.

As an example also from sweating even, how could sweating the early weeds from a distance be considered an 'unintended consequence' of programming, and thus an exploit? Weeds were a new type of mob that didn't move. To not realise the consequencies for different aspects of the game shows extremely little brain power in my opinion, or extremely little application of brain power at the very least!

Another mob elsewhere was made extremely slow on purpose, so of course you could shoot while moving backwards and stay out of hit range. The interesting thing about that mob was that it seemed to have its nose on one of its feet, and it would drown in about 1 cm of water... AND it lived in a swamp duh! Thus hunting it carefully meant choosing where to walk backwards too, and in my opinion made the whole thing totally legitimate and creative!

However, back directly on topic, mobs not attacking at all is clearly a bug and needs to be fixed asap. If making it public is the only known way to speed things up (and that seems to be the case), then I'm all for it!
 

Thanatos

Fate Thanatos Themis
those zeladoths were attacking, just 2-3 hits only, so if u hunt them with proper dps starting from range, u wouldnt notice that "feature" :)
 

Kris | Cyrene

Lo and Behold, the Fixer of Bugs
Staff member
Hey guys,

This bug is fixed as of this latest VU so I'm closing this thread and marking it as Fixed.

Cheers,
Kris
 
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