The cube that curbed my enthusiasm...

[Menace]

So we ran our first cube today.... Very VERY disappointing. All the money that goes into a cube.... so that a HUNTER can HUNT a boss mob.... and we loot bloody worthless blueprints. About 15 of them!

Cyrene staff... I have to ask you this....

Why would you put CRAFTING Blueprints.... into a HUNTER'S loot? Please explain the logic here.... Because as a hunter.. I shoot... loot... STACK... sell for MU. Now what am I supposed to do with 20 pec worth of blueprints that require 12 PED (after mu) materials per click? I mean... I can't even click them myself because the cost per click isn't worth a basic shirt.....

I don't expect to get "fantastic" from every instance or boss mob... but at least give me crummy oils and such that I've already started stacking in storage... I'm a hunter... not a crafter.



Menace

 

[redthothcrowley]

I did this cube with Menace. While I find it cool that some BP's can be looted from hunting, the fact that the entire loot from a major cube mob was a mass of worthless BP's and no actual hunting loot is a bit disappointing.

That being said, I still intend to stay on Cyrene and support it, but hoping this is not intended.

The cube event is a bit expensive to loot all bp's and not even some TT food.

 

[TunerS]

This is why you should add one of Cyrene's regular players and ask first before doing something. Cube instances seems bugged as almost every single spawn didn't give back as much as it should, not counting spawning cost.

 

[Chris Spencer Schmidt]

http://cyreneforum.com/threads/imperium-cube-summon-and-instance.1297/

If you had ever looked before.

 

[Thanatos]

Cyrene is in beta stage. some things are working, some not. here on forum u can read alot about that issues.
some ppl offered help u here or in game, why dont u make use of that?
quit cry/bitching/complaining mode plz

 

[Menace]

This is why you should add one of Cyrene's regular players and ask first before doing something. Cube instances seems bugged as almost every single spawn didn't give back as much as it should, not counting spawning cost.

You make a good point... BUT.... Kris said in-game 2 nights ago that cubes were "pretty special". I've seen loot problems get "live fixes" before ie: Sand King. Kinda figured if they're "pretty special" and he was handing some cubes out because of the disappearing boss problem... that all was proper now.

Menace

 

[redthothcrowley]

Cyrene is in beta stage. some things are working, some not. here on forum u can read alot about that issues.
some ppl offered help u here or in game, why dont u make use of that?
quit cry/bitching/complaining mode plz

He was not crying. As a matter of fact we are both wondering if it is an issue or intended.

We have resolved to be supportive of this planet and it's community, and have already run an event at our own cost. We will continue to as well.

Thanatos, you are not invited to our events though. You seem like a complete jerk.

 

[Thanatos]

He was not crying. As a matter of fact we are both wondering if it is an issue or intended.

We have resolved to be supportive of this planet and it's community, and have already run an event at our own cost. We will continue to as well.

Thanatos, you are not invited to our events though. You seem like a complete jerk.

sorry if u felt bad that i pointed u guys that all u had it do was ask other players or read forums, not to lose gift goodies. rotfl, yes, im a jerk cuz i point ppl that kind of things. now ill cry all night

so, u guys get free cubes for summons, and then bitch about loot? its just amazing

 

[redthothcrowley]

sorry if u felt bad that i pointed u guys that all u had it do was ask other players or read forums, not to lose gift goodies. rotfl, yes, im a jerk cuz i point ppl that kind of things. now ill cry all night

so, u get for free cubes for summons, and then bitching about loot, its just amazing

Free cubes? We did not get a free cube....So clearly you are not only being rude to us for no reason, you are also making assumptions.

 

[Thanatos]

Free cubes? We did not get a free cube....So clearly you are not only being rude to us for no reason, you are also making assumptions.

rude? in which part i was?

You make a good point... BUT.... Kris said in-game 2 nights ago that cubes were "pretty special". I've seen loot problems get "live fixes" before ie: Sand King. Kinda figured if they're "pretty special" and he was handing some cubes out because of the disappearing boss problem... that all was proper now.

Menace

it could be undestood like he got some from Kris, right? could go both ways, 2 nights before as u spoke to him or before, but whatever, im rude

 

[Menace]

It could be understood that WE got free cubes the way I worded it I guess. He gave some cubes out to others who had had problems with bosses disappearing previously. BECAUSE he was doing this AND said that cubes were "pretty special", I assumed the boss situation was good to go. And maybe it is. I mean.... 2500 HP doesn't cost that much to kill. It's the cube costs that hurt. Cyrene has made it so that EVEN AT TT (materials to craft) they are worth WAY MORE than 2-15 PED ammo in returns.

We bought our cubes earlier however after looking at the BP's to craft them and getting frustrated with the requirements because Cyrene doesn't yet have a fully functioning economy. (which is to be expected)

Menace

 

[Thanatos]

i get ur point Menace, but take a look at my for a sec: there are ppl here who have spent more than a year testing, losing peds, and providing info here on forum. Many bugs got fixed, some not yet, which is a shame, but VU system blocks many on fly fixes for Planet Partners, which are easy to do for MA itself.
Plz read forum, and ask ppl, not to lose peds at features that are not working yet as intended. beta stage has its bad sides, but a good also - we can help to shape it a bit.

try to enjoy cyrene as we do, and help make it a better place with every vu.

cheers

 

[Menace]

Plz read forum, and ask ppl, not to lose peds at features that are not working yet as intended.

I feel like I'm kicking a dead horse here. When an official sais to another player "here have some free cubes because a particular boss was disappearing on you's" and also states that cubes are "pretty special" I am hard pressed not to assume the problem has been fixed. Kris didn't say "here's some cubes now wait till after the next update to use them".

Why haven't the cubes been shut down if there's a problem? Instead an official promotes more cluster fucks?
I'm not really crying... and my thoughts on staying on Cyrene haven't changed. In fact I'm a 5 yr Entropian and I think I have alot of knowledge of the game and input to bring to the table as a citizen. I'm looking forward to watching Cyrene evolve and hopefully in the future I'll be knowledgeable enough about Cyrene to help out new colonists extensively. God knows I spend enough to "test" the various systems.

Anyway.... I don't want any bad blood between other Cyrenians. I know I'm the "new guy" here. I'm enjoying it. Just after our "No Loot" record setting during our napalm testing on Dire Weeds, then we have this strange blast of BP's.....

Loots been descent though. I've looted a couple lvl 30+ guns that I'd love to put in auction but I think I'll keep em for now so I can use em'.

Menace

 

[Thanatos]

Key Cubes got some other use also, ie epic mission, instance (which isnt working properly also atm), summons (as u know, not rly working), etc, maybe thats why he said they are special.

 

[Master Chief]

I feel like I'm kicking a dead horse here. When an official sais to another player "here have some free cubes because a particular boss was disappearing on you's" and also states that cubes are "pretty special" I am hard pressed not to assume the problem has been fixed. Kris didn't say "here's some cubes now wait till after the next update to use them".

Why haven't the cubes been shut down if there's a problem? Instead an official promotes more cluster fucks?
I'm not really crying... and my thoughts on staying on Cyrene haven't changed. In fact I'm a 5 yr Entropian and I think I have alot of knowledge of the game and input to bring to the table as a citizen. I'm looking forward to watching Cyrene evolve and hopefully in the future I'll be knowledgeable enough about Cyrene to help out new colonists extensively. God knows I spend enough to "test" the various systems.

Anyway.... I don't want any bad blood between other Cyrenians. I know I'm the "new guy" here. I'm enjoying it. Just after our "No Loot" record setting during our napalm testing on Dire Weeds, then we have this strange blast of BP's.....

Loots been descent though. I've looted a couple lvl 30+ guns that I'd love to put in auction but I think I'll keep em for now so I can use em'.

Menace

Before this goes the complete wrong way, Im pretty sure kris gave cubes not to promote the instance/summon but to give back for what was lost. But for a future note don't attempt to craft the Imperium Key Cube nor attempt the instance/Summons they are being looked into and will take effect next vu sometime in September. On another note the live fix on the Sand King got fixed because it was an MA thing. Here on Cyrene we have to wait as MA doesn't give Cyrene the highest priority. I won't say I lost the most, But I've lost a shit ton here on Cyrene from simple crafting to hunting and mining. We all have knowledge whose been here since day 1, If you need any advise add me ingame and ill point you to the right direction. For now I will tell you to do the Epic Chain missions #1 and #2 get them done as they will be worth it

As for the logic of finding blueprints in mission rewards and hunting loot drops There is no logic go with change . I find it different a special type of Different. I like most ideas done by the C-team and will continue to support their endeavor.


-The Chief

 

[Kris | Cyrene]

Hello Menace (and everyone else of course =P),

So we ran our first cube today.... Very VERY disappointing. All the money that goes into a cube.... so that a HUNTER can HUNT a boss mob.... and we loot bloody worthless blueprints. About 15 of them!

Cyrene staff... I have to ask you this....

Why would you put CRAFTING Blueprints.... into a HUNTER'S loot? Please explain the logic here.... Because as a hunter.. I shoot... loot... STACK... sell for MU. Now what am I supposed to do with 20 pec worth of blueprints that require 12 PED (after mu) materials per click? I mean... I can't even click them myself because the cost per click isn't worth a basic shirt.....

I don't expect to get "fantastic" from every instance or boss mob... but at least give me crummy oils and such that I've already started stacking in storage... I'm a hunter... not a crafter.

We we set up the loot lists for the Summoners Gambit mission, each Summoned mob has a different loot type attached to it. We added some blueprints in one of the creatures loot pool as to even do this mission you had to craft all the materials in the first place. That being said others have mentioned to me (either on here or in game) their own opinions of the loot (some really like the BPs, others not so much).

The thing that none of them have is default loot. Ideally if you wanted to hunt a Summoned mob you'd want to get something that was pretty cool and it didn't seem right to get a stack of oil or some wool. However, it seems there is an issue with having default loot off that causes creatures to have no loot and no message (I say seems because this issue is still being investigated between us and MA). This is one of the reasons that I have been giving out some Imperium Key Cubes. We've had a lot of feedback on this mission:

http://cyreneforum.com/threads/imperium-cube-summon-and-instance.1297/

If you had ever looked before.

and we are currently working on tweaking to make it work better and have a better overall sense of this mission is one players will want to do.

I can say for the next VU we'll be adding the default loot back in as well as another type of loot that was requested from players: Imperium Tokens. In hopes to recoup some costs for each activation of Summoners Gamibt. Also, the mob loot pools will be altered. We'll be focusing more on dropped items (tools, weapons, armors, etc) and less on crafting blueprints. There will also be some new Summoned mobs to fight. We'll also be looking at the summoning component: the Imperium Key Cube itself, to see if we can't make some positive changes.

I hope that has been informative, we are always trying to improve the player experience on Cyrene and all feedback is appreciated and considered.

Cheers,
Kris

 

[WangXiang]

He who shouts the loudest is always right?

 

[Thanatos]

He who shouts the loudest is always right?

we are in the jungle

 

[Menace]

He who shouts the loudest is always right?

Well if he's the only one being heard I guess.......

So let me shout this out real loud.....

If there is a problem with a particular system in your game, you're best to turn it off completely! I don't care how wonderful the other players are...or how willing they are to tell others it's broken. It is Cyrene's responsibility to ensure their customers don't get donkey fucked due to broken systems.
I'm really over it at this point. But just because I don't care anymore doesnt' mean I'm going to accept the fact that nothing has been done to protect the players system side wise. It's wonderful to get the official info from Kris (which I had already heard from the nice players of cyrene) but unfortunately it's just not enough.

Menace

 

[non]

It is Cyrene's responsibility to ensure their customers don't get donkey fucked due to broken systems.

Menace

i feel ya but i dont think we should be holding PP's to higher standards than MA.

this is entropia some shit is bugged and backassward ):

its good to vent though. were all just beta tester here in eu i think