1. Welcome to Planet Cyrene Forum!

    You appear to be browsing cyreneforum.com as a guest user. Did you know that if you sign up with an account, you get access to all kinds of additional privileges, and are then able to join the discussions?

    Already a member? Login Now!

Tier 1 Limited Weapon Voucher and Ecotron v.15e (L)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by WangXiang, Oct 7, 2019.

  1. WangXiang
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    WangXiang Active Member
    Relaxed

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2012
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Society:
    The Knights of Entropia
    If you are "lucky" to loot an A.R.C. Tier 1 Limited Weapon Voucher, you can refine it with 150 PED TT Zorn Star Ingot in order to obtain a Weapon Cube, something that will give you access to an Ecotron v.15e (L) in the Hub - provided you have 200 Badges already.

    I do not see the incentive here. The whole process seems unfair to me as the Ecotron has only a TT value of 100 PËD.

    The required quantity of Zorn Star Ingot is obviously too high. Is this not a bug?
     
    Kingu likes this.
  2. bella
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    bella Member
    Lurking

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    41
    Trophy Points:
    18
    so expensive that 50% mu :)
     
  3. Kris | Cyrene
    • Administrator
    • Moderator
    • Cyrene Staff
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Kris | Cyrene Lo and Behold, the Fixer of Bugs Staff Member
    Cool

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2011
    Messages:
    1,537
    Likes Received:
    1,556
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    A man of many hats and talents.
    Location:
    Chiang Mai, Thailand // Orange County, CA
    Home Page:
    Hey WangXiang,

    Looking at the market for Zorn Star Ingots over the past year just under 109% and get lower over the week/month/day.

    While this is not a bug, I do agree that the shear amount of Ingots (3,500) is quite high (although correct for the system), although compared to the same amount of say Shrapnel (1,000,000) felt a bit better.

    That being said we believe that Planet Cyrene can always be improved and welcome all suggestions.

    Cheers,
    Kris
     
    Kingu likes this.
  4. WangXiang
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    WangXiang Active Member
    Relaxed

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2012
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Society:
    The Knights of Entropia
    1M Shrapnel (100 PED TT) would be relatively fair for a 100 PED TT value weapon, but 150 PED TT value Zorn Star Ingot is clearly not.

    There is no chance the weapon reaches at least 50% MU given its features. If things remain unchanged, nobody in his right mind will go through this cumbersome process to obtain it (except maybe once, to see what happens).
     
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2019
  5. Haruto Rat
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Haruto Rat eep!
    Cynical

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Messages:
    308
    Likes Received:
    286
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    3500 Zorn Star Ingot = 105.00 PED
    5000 Zorn Star Ingot = 150.00 PED

    One of you has the numbers wrong and I can't check right now who. :)
     
  6. Kris | Cyrene
    • Administrator
    • Moderator
    • Cyrene Staff
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Kris | Cyrene Lo and Behold, the Fixer of Bugs Staff Member
    Cool

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2011
    Messages:
    1,537
    Likes Received:
    1,556
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    A man of many hats and talents.
    Location:
    Chiang Mai, Thailand // Orange County, CA
    Home Page:
    Hey guys,

    Zorn Star Ingots.PNG

    I think there is a fair criticism here, and there's honestly no harm to come up with some other other options and talk to MA about changing the ingredients for this transformation.

    Cheers,
    Kris
     
  7. Kingu
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Kingu New Member
    Devilish

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2018
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Gender:
    Male
    Society:
    Cult of the Skull


    If i had picture i would have been able to show what i had in to the refiner to get it green.. did not take screenshot or stream it sadly.. but i did add 5k ingot and cant say i saw some returned.. But ofc can be some was sent to inventory and i was too tired to notice the change
     
    Kris | Cyrene likes this.
  8. WangXiang
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    WangXiang Active Member
    Relaxed

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2012
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Society:
    The Knights of Entropia
    I just made the test as I could acquire 3.5K Zorn Star Ingot on the auction.

    Entropia 2019-10-09 19.43.52a.jpg

    The required amount is effectively 3.5K (and not 5K) :)

    Nevertheless, the cost to acquire a 100 PED TT weapon is around 115 PED (105 PED TT value + 10% Monthly MU for Zorn Star Ingot), which remains a bit high. 1M Shrapnel would be a better option, for sure.
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2019
  9. Lilmc | Cyrene
    • Moderator
    • Cyrene Staff
    • Cyrene Pioneer
    • Community Manager

    Lilmc | Cyrene Active Member Staff Member
    Lurking

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2016
    Messages:
    155
    Likes Received:
    214
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Hey everyone!

    It's been a hot minute, I do keep my eyes on forums once in a while and ill chirp in here as the TT Value vs Market Price TT is 110% my fault. I suggested it to be slight higher than the TT Output to make it less rewarding for reseller sharks. This is something I feel should be enjoyed by people that put time, effort, and of course peds to obtain. However, having it 100% at TT has negative effects as well. Cyrene Team has been working on ways to have these items and vouchers placed in-game and looted. It's much easier said than it is done, I'm always happy to hear more feedback players have and I wanted to make sure this was intentional and not in any way a bug.

    -Lilmc
     
    Kingu and Kris | Cyrene like this.
  10. Mike
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    Mike New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Gender:
    Male
    Society:
    ~Enforcers Of Justice~
    Is there anything special in that L weapon that resellers with camp?
     
  11. WangXiang
    • Cyrene Pioneer

    WangXiang Active Member
    Relaxed

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2012
    Messages:
    141
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Society:
    The Knights of Entropia
    If the cost and effort to obtain this weapon are too high (and I think they are) players will just don't try to obtain it and looted vouchers will remain unused. The whole initiative will have no positive impact on the Cyrene economy (the impact will even be negative)... so it will objectively be a failure.
     
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2019
  12. Lilmc | Cyrene
    • Moderator
    • Cyrene Staff
    • Cyrene Pioneer
    • Community Manager

    Lilmc | Cyrene Active Member Staff Member
    Lurking

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2016
    Messages:
    155
    Likes Received:
    214
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    It's to turn off re-sellers from (L) weapons as it was suppose to be much easier to obtain than it is now.

    It's not what we had planned, we have no control over loot drops or the rate of drops.

    -Lilmc
     
    Kris | Cyrene likes this.

Share This Page