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Wasp Queen Fasp

Kris | Cyrene

Lo and Behold, the Fixer of Bugs
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Hey Noorie,

Hey Kris,

May I ask you about the Boffin Upgrade Parts drop frequency. I am hunting daily on regular basis but haven't got a single piece since 3 weeks.
I used to get average a few pieces per month in the past.
Just curious what could be the reason for that.

I can follow up with MindArk about that as I already will be talking to them about the Basic Targeting Chips (along with other issues).

Cheers,
Kris
 

Paul Jetman Masters

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I agree.
I discover Arkadia today. Smuggler mission and IFN are nice.
Its more fast to get clothes there.
Smuggler items are really nice and its a good challenge to try to get these items ! Not like Cyrene where you work for missing or bugged items ...
IFN mission is good too, 350 days and i can have the Dropship ! Not like Cyrene where you do the 1200 ARC badges mission for nothing ...
While those missions are nice, and i'm working on them too, slowly however. The smuggler costs 500ped to start for untradable low TT clothing (1k for full set) and the dropship isn't tradable either and pretty poor eco, so likely a vanity item. While it's good those missions are working, the smuggler has an high cost for clothing + big mission chains before you even can start the missions, and the dropship is only eye candy. Whilst the currently broke cyrene vendors have items worth grabbing if you can.
i'd still like to see the rank vendors scrapped and ark style instances added instead which you can only enter with the correct badge number (24hr repeatable) with chests that can loot (L) & UL armors and gunes(the ones in the vendor now), this would increase Cyrenes turnover and stop campers
 

San

Sandal San Tolk
The Dropship isn't conceived for personal travel. It can carry more passengers than any other currently existing vehicle, so if you have an application for that, the eco argument becomes moot. The entrance fee for the Smuggler instances is not 500 but even 1000 PED worth of Arkoins, just paid in two installments. For that you get a set of sharp looking clothes as a goodie, but they are not the reason for doing this. Yes this concept of a paywall has caused controversy, but everybody is free to make up their mind if they want in or not. The cost isn't more than other lengthy missions. You can make it your own mission by farming the koins yourself, or take the shortcut and buy them. It's the Smuggler way, how the devs designed the storyline.

However, if Cyrene only gets the pesky problems with its own missions ironed out, it doesn't have to fear the competition. The Smuggler instances lure with valuable armour to loot, and while it's rare some part has already been found. People always complain it's hard and they want more frequent drops, but it hasn't been reported that it's outright not working, or that MA and the Ark team are playing blame ping-pong over whatever. This is different here and this has to change. It is hurting this planet so much which has such great potential.
 

krasko

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While those missions are nice, and i'm working on them too, slowly however. The smuggler costs 500ped to start for untradable low TT clothing (1k for full set) and the dropship isn't tradable either and pretty poor eco, so likely a vanity item. While it's good those missions are working, the smuggler has an high cost for clothing + big mission chains before you even can start the missions, and the dropship is only eye candy. Whilst the currently broke cyrene vendors have items worth grabbing if you can.
i'd still like to see the rank vendors scrapped and ark style instances added instead which you can only enter with the correct badge number (24hr repeatable) with chests that can loot (L) & UL armors and gunes(the ones in the vendor now), this would increase Cyrenes turnover and stop campers

Look at the clothes as an entry fee to the instances.
If there was an instance at 500 or 1k arc badges , as you suggested it wouldn't cost you the less and you will have no clothes. :)
 

Paul Jetman Masters

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Look at the clothes as an entry fee to the instances.
If there was an instance at 500 or 1k arc badges , as you suggested it wouldn't cost you the less and you will have no clothes. :)
yeah the clothes look awesome, but i don't mean to lose the badges, so obtaining 500-1000 badges cost maybe 7-15k ped turnover? while ark (with far better mission chain after i accept) is 1k payment plus a multiple stage 6 chains costing over 20k turnover just for the Wombana.

I suggest the change as the current system doesn't benefit Cyrene and is probably the reason of no stock, if stock is turnover related and once you have the badges you can bring Shrapnel is, means zero turnover required once your at the required rank. a system where you could buy Keys at the terminal once a day unlimited stock to enter the instance would be a better method
 
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San

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I suggest the change as the current system doesn't benefit Cyrene and is probably the reason of no stock, if stock is turnover related and once you have the badges you can bring Shrapnel is, means zero turnover required once your at the required rank.
I too believe that this is at the core of the problem. On Arkadia you pay with Arkoins not only for the Smuggler bribe, but for items vended from an NPC also (the armour and weapons trader at IFN Supply Depot). On Calypso you pay with Combat Tokens likewise. And their vendors are stocked. Maybe the blockade will go away if NPC items are to be paid in Cyrene Mission Tokens, ARC Badges or whatever?
 

krasko

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yeah the clothes look awesome, but i don't mean to lose the badges, so obtaining 500-1000 badges cost maybe 7-15k ped turnover? while ark (with far better mission chain after i accept) is 1k payment plus a multiple stage 6 chains costing over 20k turnover just for the Wombana.

I suggest the change as the current system doesn't benefit Cyrene and is probably the reason of no stock, if stock is turnover related and once you have the badges you can bring Shrapnel is, means zero turnover required once your at the required rank. a system where you could buy Keys at the terminal once a day unlimited stock to enter the instance would be a better method
Just FYI Stage 5 (22/60k) cost me 1k so far - 2 ul piron rifles with mu value around 900.
You dont have to do the repeatable 60k stage 6. :)
 

Paul Jetman Masters

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I too believe that this is at the core of the problem. On Arkadia you pay with Arkoins not only for the Smuggler bribe, but for items vended from an NPC also (the armour and weapons trader at IFN Supply Depot). On Calypso you pay with Combat Tokens likewise. And their vendors are stocked. Maybe the blockade will go away if NPC items are to be paid in Cyrene Mission Tokens, ARC Badges or whatever?
also they are boosted by the instances actually creating turnover are you can loot the smuggler parts, i'd prefer a new currency like arkoin, maybe instance looted too, The MU on cyrene token is insanely high atm, no one would buy a (L) armor with 200 TT for 200 TT of Tokens

Just FYI Stage 5 (22/60k) cost me 1k so far - 2 ul piron rifles with mu value around 900.
You dont have to do the repeatable 60k stage 6. :)
is that 1k lost or turnover? i've been hunting the big ones with Corrosive dagger and either an amp Fletcher or Recon Rifle ( so eco is 2.96+) and getting average cost of 0.154 ped/point (inc defence and healing) which equals 20.7k Turnover for 135k points
 

krasko

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also they are boosted by the instances actually creating turnover are you can loot the smuggler parts, i'd prefer a new currency like arkoin, maybe instance looted too, The MU on cyrene token is insanely high atm, no one would buy a (L) armor with 200 TT for 200 TT of Tokens


is that 1k lost or turnover? i've been hunting the big ones with Corrosive dagger and either an amp Fletcher or Recon Rifle ( so eco is 2.96+) and getting average cost of 0.154 ped/point (inc defence and healing) which equals 20.7k Turnover for 135k points

1k is what i lost (lower levels with ozpyn rsb s1x1 + trauma I and bp s1x3).
 
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