Why Planet Cyrene is not allowed to...

[Justine]

Entropia Universe is a Real Cash Economy game with different planet with (normally) same rules.
But why Planet Cyrene is not allowed to :

1. Have Shop like all other planets
2. Have Appartment like other planets (Asteroid/Monria etc are not planet and have appartment)
3. Sell land area
4. Have consideration from MindArk for repair bug and bring back in loot all missing items
5. Have Pyrite Ore in PVP area like all other planets
6. I forgot some other but this is not all the list.

As i see, Mindark do not allow Cyrene Players to play on Planet Cyrene with same rules as other planets partners.

On Real Cash Economy game, i see the Real Cash, Mindark and Cyrene accept always our US dollars, but where is the Economy part if we do not have same chance as other planets ?

Ok, you'll tell me Auction House work, yes !
But on Planet Cyrene, Cyrene crafters buy usually small quantities, that mean the Markup from almost all items are very HIGH, but almost all part of the MU go to auction fee.

Please, Planet Cyrene, push for make create a better Economy on your planet.

Some ideas :
- About shop and what you planned : Create Temporary Shop Deed, like Mining Deed, with a timer and bound to avatar. That will prevent sales and nothing to do at the end for bring back the deed.



-Create appartment, then we can put Shopkeeper inside and use appartment like a shop.

-Create very small Land Area where we can put Shopkeer.

Justine

 

[Morfoc]

need more people create account at cyrene planet if i understand

 

[Justine]

need more people create account at cyrene planet if i understand

lol since 2011 not enought account from Planet Cyrene ? OMG, we will never have anything then

Why a player will create an account on Planet Cyrene if he is not allowed to have same free stuff at start than other planet?
For example, all other planet give a vehicule for free, on Cyrene a nex player have to buy it by exchange items to a NPc, why he would start here if he can't have a planet armor from mentoring, etc ...

 

[krasko]

5. Is a wrong statement.

 

[Kris | Cyrene]

Hey guys,

I'll answer these as I can:

But why Planet Cyrene is not allowed to :

1. Have Shop like all other planets
2. Have Appartment like other planets (Asteroid/Monria etc are not planet and have appartment)
3. Sell land area
4. Have consideration from MindArk for repair bug and bring back in loot all missing items
5. Have Pyrite Ore in PVP area like all other planets
6. I forgot some other but this is not all the list.

1) We do have shops, even if they are unavailable. We're in talks with MA as well about setting up these and #2, apartments, however we only have a finite number of shops we're allowed to have.
2) Similar to #1, these I believe will come out together but we're working on something more with both but I can't say any more at this time.
3) We've got our 1 land area and we have had a few offers on it even though it wasn't in the Auction, however I think we're going to start using it as an event area.
4) I'm not sure about the 'repair bug' but we're not really in charge of what loot MA decides to phase out or let drop.
5) There for sure is Pyrite Ore in PvP Areas, try near the volcano.
6) Please feel free to voice any and all concerns.

On Real Cash Economy game, i see the Real Cash, Mindark and Cyrene accept always our US dollars, but where is the Economy part if we do not have same chance as other planets ?

That's something we feel and have expressed to MA as well.

Please, Planet Cyrene, push for make create a better Economy on your planet.

This is the main reason for the lack of Cyrene Hard Lanuch, we both want the same thing and it's our biggest concern with them.

Some ideas :
- About shop and what you planned : Create Temporary Shop Deed, like Mining Deed, with a timer and bound to avatar. That will prevent sales and nothing to do at the end for bring back the deed.

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-Create appartment, then we can put Shopkeeper inside and use appartment like a shop.

-Create very small Land Area where we can put Shopkeer.

Some interesting ideas, we can explore them with MA and see what is and isn't feasible.

Cheers,
Kris

 

[Justine]

Hey guys,

I'll answer these as I can:


1) We do have shops, even if they are unavailable. We're in talks with MA as well about setting up these and #2, apartments, however we only have a finite number of shops we're allowed to have.
2) Similar to #1, these I believe will come out together but we're working on something more with both but I can't say any more at this time.

I know that ! But it's very long. You spoke about your idea on the forum, more than 1 year ago
How many times you think your players base will wait a move ? Alot are still gone

3) We've got our 1 land area and we have had a few offers on it even though it wasn't in the Auction, however I think we're going to start using it as an event area.

Excellent idea, but i hope we will not wait many years to see any move

5) There for sure is Pyrite Ore in PvP Areas, try near the volcano.

Will try again, but nobody (as i know) found any Pyrite. I spend 10kped per week in mining and didn't found any Pyrite. But i found some new ores/enmatters like Henren. By the way, Red Crystal and Cyrenium are gone too, i found only Lyst and oils on Volcano. It do not worth the risk to mine there with only Lyst and Crude oil. Maybe it's time to check mining logs.

6) Please feel free to voice any and all concerns.

-Voucher,
-Lesser and Weakened Crystals (maybe it's time to do something like rare items from Lazidol and the Empi wasp queen, since loot 2.0,hight TT value items do not drop on Cyrene),
-New ranks for Refurbushed fap (you announced it many month ago),
-release our reward for last rank on Puny Mang chang mission (seems not hard to do it, if the achievement is done the npc should give it)
-Final rank for Outside coat mission, this is a nonsense to release a mission chain without possibility to finish it

That's something we feel and have expressed to MA as well.

So let use to start to increase the Cyrene Economy, if players do not have possibility to sell loot, they don't stay, so you'll lose money. Equation is simple.

This is the main reason for the lack of Cyrene Hard Lanuch, we both want the same thing and it's our biggest concern with them.

You want more players and a better economy before implant the hard launch. I understand. But if you don't release same things as all planet, i mean all package for let players built the Cyrene Economy; hard launch will never come. You have to do more things for newcommers, stop to give Duster Slicer (level 17 Knife) to a newcommer who will never use it at start (5ped gone). Better to use this 5 ped on reward on small mob mission chain for newcommers, give them for free one vehicule like other planet do. You started with pleak mission, but Cyrene must be more Newcommers Friendly.

Some interesting ideas, we can explore them with MA and see what is and isn't feasible.

Cheers,
Kris

+1

 

[mastermesh]

well, if you do get apartments installed, I may be willing to trade in my apartment deed on another planet for one here.

 

[Kris | Cyrene]

Hey Justine,

I know that ! But it's very long. You spoke about your idea on the forum, more than 1 year ago
How many times you think your players base will wait a move ? Alot are still gone

The players on Cyrene wax and wane, it's a common thing for not only Planet Cyrene but also MMOs in general.

While nobody wants to give the players what they want more than me, but if everyone can be patient a bit more and something better can come from it for everyone I'll say it was worth it.

Excellent idea, but i hope we will not wait many years to see any move

Hopefully in full swing next month.

Will try again, but nobody (as i know) found any Pyrite. I spend 10kped per week in mining and didn't found any Pyrite. But i found some new ores/enmatters like Henren. By the way, Red Crystal and Cyrenium are gone too, i found only Lyst and oils on Volcano. It do not worth the risk to mine there with only Lyst and Crude oil. Maybe it's time to check mining logs.

While I can't comment about the drop rate from MA, I can confirm the spawns are in here.

I will go through the reports for this year and see about it / report to MA.

1) - Voucher,
2) -Lesser and Weakened Crystals (maybe it's time to do something like rare items from Lazidol and the Empi wasp queen, since loot 2.0,hight TT value items do not drop on Cyrene),
3) -New ranks for Refurbushed fap (you announced it many month ago),
4) -release our reward for last rank on Puny Mang chang mission (seems not hard to do it, if the achievement is done the npc should give it)
5) -Final rank for Outside coat mission, this is a nonsense to release a mission chain without possibility to finish it

I've numbered your list to make it easier to respond to, not to rank them:

1) The voucher system is fully in place on our end and it has an EXTREMELY low TT, I'm uncertain if MA set it to be too rare or justifiably rare for the rewards.
2) It's something we can re-evaluate for the next PP VU.
3) That quest was not allowed to be implemented yet by MindArk, not by us, as soon as it's allowed it'll be out in the game. It's already done.
4) This is a technical issue, as the reward reaches some kind of threshold, it's something that we can't fix without MA.
5) Similar to the new ranks of the refurbished fap, this mission is complete but the final reward needs to be adjusted.

So let use to start to increase the Cyrene Economy, if players do not have possibility to sell loot, they don't stay, so you'll lose money. Equation is simple.

Don't you feel like part of that equation is having meaningful things to use the loot you have?

You want more players and a better economy before implant the hard launch. I understand. But if you don't release same things as all planet, i mean all package for let players built the Cyrene Economy; hard launch will never come. You have to do more things for newcommers, stop to give Duster Slicer (level 17 Knife) to a newcommer who will never use it at start (5ped gone). Better to use this 5 ped on reward on small mob mission chain for newcommers, give them for free one vehicule like other planet do. You started with pleak mission, but Cyrene must be more Newcommers Friendly.

I think that the Duster Slicer isn't really an issue, it's only used for the Hub so players don't have to go in with nothing, which is why it's level 17 as well.

I do think that the new player experience could be more fun and engaging, however we do give out quite a few free items to new players at and around Rookie Training Area.

That being said it's something we want to improve and are always open to suggestions.

Cheers,
Kris

 

[Justine]

Hey Justine,



The players on Cyrene wax and wane, it's a common thing for not only Planet Cyrene but also MMOs in general.

While nobody wants to give the players what they want more than me, but if everyone can be patient a bit more and something better can come from it for everyone I'll say it was worth it.

I just try to understand why Cyrene still not have shop for a game based on Economy. Toulan and Monria are more small than Cyrene and they have shop, in fact only Cyrene do not have and it's strange, it look like we do not have same rules as all other place in the Universe.

Hopefully in full swing next month.

Wait and see

While I can't comment about the drop rate from MA, I can confirm the spawns are in here.

I will go through the reports for this year and see about it / report to MA.

I'll try more run on Volcano this month and i will spend you the feedback (ores/enmatters found). Note i do not ask for more loot quantity, i never asked that, i just try to have same chance when i play on Planet Cyrene than other place in EU.

I've numbered your list to make it easier to respond to, not to rank them:

1) The voucher system is fully in place on our end and it has an EXTREMELY low TT, I'm uncertain if MA set it to be too rare or justifiably rare for the rewards.
2) It's something we can re-evaluate for the next PP VU.
3) That quest was not allowed to be implemented yet by MindArk, not by us, as soon as it's allowed it'll be out in the game. It's already done.
4) This is a technical issue, as the reward reaches some kind of threshold, it's something that we can't fix without MA.
5) Similar to the new ranks of the refurbished fap, this mission is complete but the final reward needs to be adjusted.

In fact, vouchers was never found, it was from June 2017 VU, Mang chang (for Voucher 1) are over hunted (puny/weak/young/mature), no discover hof. Look like they are not in loot table. About Lava Golem, they are gone from PVP4 since this VU too, now there is only Red Molten Golem.

Good to hear about Crystals

Don't you feel like part of that equation is having meaningful things to use the loot you have?

Ofc And there is plenty valuable loot on Cyrene.
But usually mostly crafters buy loot, that mean they must have something to craft. One of major problem is almost all your Weapons, tools, attachments blueprint can't be crafted because receipe for make them do not match with loot composition. Second problem is, if a crafter wil craft something, it's for sell it, it make sense. Your BP are not really bad if we compare them with BP from other planets. There is no decent mining amp, there is only 1 decent weapon to Craft but HK mold are not in game. Where are all new BP from the September's VU note ?
I think you have to focus on craft too, maybe you should do a complete VU for crafting.

I think that the Duster Slicer isn't really an issue, it's only used for the Hub so players don't have to go in with nothing, which is why it's level 17 as well.

I don't said this is an issue, it make no sense to give to new players useless items. And by the way, it's impossible to do real hunt with duster slicer, every 7 mobs you have to repair it. Players use weapons from TT.


Other voice are needed too
Look like i complain alot and i don't like that. But i really want to see Planet Cyrene a better place with more players and more fun !

 

[Justine]

OK i have to apologize, today i found Pyrite and Red molten Crsytal, so we have same rules as other planets for pvp area

 

[mastermesh]

I just try to understand why Cyrene still not have shop for a game based on Economy. Toulan and Monria are more small than Cyrene and they have shop, in fact only Cyrene do not have and it's strange, it look like we do not have same rules as all other place in the Universe.

Where's Toulan's shop?

 

[Justine]

Where's Toulan's shop?

I can't tell, i don't know exactly, but 1 player from my old society got one if i'm remember right. I'am wrong?

Well i checked Planet Toulan Forum, confirmed shop exist there
http://www.toulanforum.com/forum/

Except Cyrene don't ask me anything from other planets My knowledge is low for that

 

[Morfoc]

<<< the new knowledge of EU

 

[Spawn]

There are no shops on Toulan.

 

[Justine]

There are no shops on Toulan.

Ok my bad i saw that in Toulan Forum :

But i didn't saw 0 Threads and 0 post

Sorry about that