Why tt of unl cyrene weapons is so low?

[Thanatos]

Its the thing i just dont understand. Why do u make guns that last just for 10 min of shoting before u got to repair it. Only Howler Prototype lasts longer, but it shots slowly anyway.

Can u make good and usefull guns plz?

 

[Andreso]

i think they dont want UL equitment becouse its bad for economy , so they have choise to make it very not eco, or just small tt which make it hard to use for grinders

 

[Thanatos]

i think they dont want UL equitment becouse its bad for economy , so they have choise to make it very not eco, or just small tt which make it hard to use for grinders

sorry but this is Dev corner where we can ask questions, to get their answers, if its possible.

cheers

 

[Andreso]

sorry, didnt look where the post wast made, always looking at new threads options

 

[Kris | Cyrene]

Hey guys!

We do strive to have weapons (especially Limited weapons) have quite a fair number of shots before they break or have to be repaired.

That being said, the Trade Terminal weapons can be tricky in the balancing, and we'll try to improve on items as we are able.

Cheers,

Kris

 

[Agis]

Again , I think the Cyrene Devs are focusing on good balancing and keeping your cyrene visits as cheap as possible as well as enjoyable, those UL guns are only designed to keep your hunting costs down instead of gambling more PED away on longer grinds, these weapons keep the cost of hunting on cyrene cheap so people can deposit 10$-$20 and there ped would last longer, you cant get carried away with these weapons, cheap weapons, cheap skills and cheap hunting is that what any new adventurer desires, not hard to press T and repair. Same with mning.

Cheap and Fun to Play. If you want to gamble you can always use off world equipment. Cyrene is not here to prey on the hardcore gamblers for now, its providing a Fun and Entertaining enivornment for all and I thank the Cyrene development team. in the way they are going about evolving this world, equipment and gear will evolve as well as the environment as the players interact more with the landscape and what it has to offer.

 

[Thanatos]

Hey guys!

We do strive to have weapons (especially Limited weapons) have quite a fair number of shots before they break or have to be repaired.

That being said, the Trade Terminal weapons can be tricky in the balancing, and we'll try to improve on items as we are able.

Cheers,

Kris

Thx for ur replay Kris,

L weapons are cool, and you are right, balancing is not easy. TT weapons are short, but ok, i can buy 5 of them to make longer run. My main concern is about looted UNL weapons:
Fenris shotgun - 450 shots? 10 min hunt?
Officer XT - cool side effect, more shots but anyway its for 10 min play.

What if i make them tier 5 and add 5 dmng enhancers, it will lower the game time even more increasing decay.
Low tt weapons are cool as L (i like that Fangs, Enkids and other stuff), but not for Unl.

Cheers

 

[Thanatos]

Again , I think the Cyrene Devs are focusing on good balancing and keeping your cyrene visits as cheap as possible as well as enjoyable, those UL guns are only designed to keep your hunting costs down instead of gambling more PED away on longer grinds, these weapons keep the cost of hunting on cyrene cheap so people can deposit 10$-$20 and there ped would last longer, you cant get carried away with these weapons, cheap weapons, cheap skills and cheap hunting is that what any new adventurer desires, not hard to press T and repair. Same with mning.

Cheap and Fun to Play. If you want to gamble you can always use off world equipment. Cyrene is not here to prey on the hardcore gamblers for now, its providing a Fun and Entertaining enivornment for all and I thank the Cyrene development team. in the way they are going about evolving this world, equipment and gear will evolve as well as the environment as the players interact more with the landscape and what it has to offer.

Agis, seriously, ur not on the topic - setting max tt of looted UNL weapons higher will not make ppl gambling more. Dont wanna gamble - dont hunt big mobs, dont use big guns. But we should have a choice.
I think PP prefare ppl not to visit Cyrene, but stay here, and not to use outside world stuff, but their own.
But i agree that Cyrene Team tries their best to make this planet better. So do i.

Anyway, dont write "its all great" posts cuz its not, yet.
Well, maybe u dont know that, cuz u dont play here atm at all... but if u think its all great, why ur not here?
Ahh, ur gambling on Atrox Stalkers. its OK.

My post about unl weapons, as most of my posts here, is intended to make this planet better, so plz dont distact me, and stay on topic.

 

[Agis]

Anyway, dont write "its all great" posts cuz its not, yet.
Well, maybe u dont know that, cuz u dont play here atm at all... but if u think its all great, why ur not here?
Ahh, ur gambling on Atrox Stalkers. its OK.

My post about unl weapons, as most of my posts here, is intended to make this planet better, so plz dont distact me, and stay on topic.

I did the atrox stalkers for a 2k PED reward so i can move to Cyrene permenently

and sorry about the reply , I just replied based on the feeling of the mechanics and balancing ive experienced on Cyrene, understanding why UL weapons are low TT im sure theres a reason and i was just basing my opinion on my feelings towards the matter by studying the way UL weapons are on Cyrene.

meant no distraction.

 

[Thanatos]

I did the atrox stalkers for a 2k PED reward so i can move to Cyrene permenently

and sorry about the reply , I just replied based on the feeling of the mechanics and balancing ive experienced on Cyrene, understanding why UL weapons are low TT im sure theres a reason and i was just basing my opinion on my feelings towards the matter by studying the way UL weapons are on Cyrene.

meant no distraction.

i appologize for my hasty reply, i hope ull win that event. i didnt want to be rude or something.

I just wanted to ask a public question to Developers, not to start a public disscussion about my question

Cheers mate!

 

[Neil Stockton]

Again , I think the Cyrene Devs are focusing on good balancing and keeping your cyrene visits as cheap as possible as well as enjoyable, those UL guns are only designed to keep your hunting costs down instead of gambling more PED away on longer grinds, these weapons keep the cost of hunting on cyrene cheap so people can deposit 10$-$20 and there ped would last longer, you cant get carried away with these weapons, cheap weapons, cheap skills and cheap hunting is that what any new adventurer desires, not hard to press T and repair. Same with mning.

Cheap and Fun to Play. If you want to gamble you can always use off world equipment. Cyrene is not here to prey on the hardcore gamblers for now, its providing a Fun and Entertaining enivornment for all and I thank the Cyrene development team. in the way they are going about evolving this world, equipment and gear will evolve as well as the environment as the players interact more with the landscape and what it has to offer.

Actually I believe it's the other way around. Spending only a few ped hunting, mining, or crafting is gambling (hoping you get lucky). Long runs, on the other hand, give you an expected ~90% return rate and you look at MU to determine if you profited or lost.

But on topic, the PP has a lot of factors to balance, esp with a TT weapon... TT value, eco, dps, dmg, decay and since it's balancing, MA has the final say on what the stats can be and the PP can't talk much about why things are the way they are. I think the main reason you'll see low TT value weapons in the TT (not just Cyrene but everywhere) is that they're designed for brand-new players and so you want to keep the purchase cost to a bare minimum.

 

[Thanatos]

Actually I believe it's the other way around. Spending only a few ped hunting, mining, or crafting is gambling (hoping you get lucky). Long runs, on the other hand, give you an expected ~90% return rate and you look at MU to determine if you profited or lost.

But on topic, the PP has a lot of factors to balance, esp with a TT weapon... TT value, eco, dps, dmg, decay and since it's balancing, MA has the final say on what the stats can be and the PP can't talk much about why things are the way they are. I think the main reason you'll see low TT value weapons in the TT (not just Cyrene but everywhere) is that they're designed for brand-new players and so you want to keep the purchase cost to a bare minimum.

all is ok for TT weapons, but not for unl looted ones. if u want to bring some more hunters here, give us something valuable to loot. who needs unl weaopn with 10 min shoting time? no1.

i remember old times when if u wanted to get uber item u had to know what mob can drop it and then go for it.
now its all crap gamble on calypso. u hope here will be a bit different.

cheers

ps. i rly want to get answers from developers, not to make an open discussion! ffs!

 

[mastermesh]

just be glad it's sib and in the tt. Back in the old days, if you wanted to skill up on melee swords and axes, none of it was sib, and you still had the 10 minute thing going on. Imagine how frustrating it was back in 2007 using 2x0s and katsuichi line... that was my first 3 months in game (and this was just after the nerf to the 2x0s)