Lime green token, real value

[Rusty Venture]

Lime green tokens, what is their true value? I've seen people buying for 1 ped per k and seen people selling at 25p/k

Due to the jacket selling usually at around 5000+ ped I would say the tokens are worth 10 ped per 1000.
What do you think?

 

[renegarderose]

Lime green tokens, what is their true value? I've seen people buying for 1 ped per k and seen people selling at 25p/k

Due to the jacket selling usually at around 5000+ ped I would say the tokens are worth 10 ped each.
What do you think?

I don't see no jacket for sale for 5k ped....where you getting your facts from? Maybe you got your planets mixed up dude.

 

[Rusty Venture]

A quick google turned at least one sale up. I have seen more elsewhere too.
Always for over 5k, also have talked to people who have bought it with trade for over 8k

Sold for 5k http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/forums/showthread.php?269180-Unique-Coat-of-The-Proving-Grounds

 

[renegarderose]

Just cause someone asked for that much doesn't mean it went for that much. If you're so gungho about it then you buy the damn tokens for 10ped/k I don't get what the big deal is. Value is what peeps put on it as a whole, not one person.

 

[Rusty Venture]

That thread is showed it went for 5k, other times it has gone for more. Can anyone confirm it ever selling for under 5k?

Value is tied directly to the coats, or at least should be, while at the moment it appears not to be. Seeing as this is our planets "oil field" users should be able to get full value without having to find all 550000 tokens to sell the jacket.

People are buying tokens simply to resell the coat at the moment and making a fortune off noobs who can't or don't do the math. Noobs like you who feel the market value is the proper value without doing a little research is why I am making this market value thread.

 

[renegarderose]

That thread is showed it went for 5k, other times it has gone for more. Can anyone confirm it ever selling for under 5k?

Value is tied directly to the coats, or at least should be, while at the moment it appears not to be. Seeing as this is our planets "oil field" users should be able to get full value without having to find all 550000 tokens to sell the jacket.

People are buying tokens simply to resell the coat at the moment and making a fortune off noobs who can't or don't do the math. Noobs like you who feel the market value is the proper value without doing a little research is why I am making this market value thread.

You should watch who you're calling a noob. Far as I'm concerned you're directly contradicting peeps like chief who know what they're talking about which makes you look like an imbecile. Here's some advice, don't say you googled your proof and leave it at that, just shows you're the one that really doesn't get it. I think you're a bit jelly if anything from the way you keep going on about this.

 

[Rusty Venture]

Google is the easiest way for you to find the 'proof' I speak of. If you don't believe me you should believe others, if you don't believe them I don't know what to tell you.

However I won't argue with you here, if you're looking for a fight go message sluggo.
The coat is worth over 5000 ped, thus the tokens are worth appox the same, it is simple math.

 

[renegarderose]

Well here's some intel im sure you've never been privy to. Two coats were sold both to ace walker for 3.5k approx. Add that to your database. They were also the first coats to come through too. Bet you don't know about that I suppose? Well yours truly aka as you call me the noob was around for it. In fact been around here for almost a decade now. Don't start threads about things you know nothing about. You google info and use that to state facts that ISN'T yours. The TRUE players of EU are the ones that know what's really going for what. I don't suppose you're one of them though from the way you act on here. You're entitled to your opinions and that's fine, just don't go using one piece of data from one thread for ONE COAT to justify it.

I'm going to consider this discussion closed to prevent further baseless replies. You have yourself a noobtastic night.

 

[Rusty Venture]

That is not true. Walker created both of his coats, he purchased them from the NPC himself, got the new item hof, then converted it to the untradeable, which gave him a 2nd hof. Proving he did not purchase from others.

What he did do, was purchase the tokens from others, at 6 ped per 1k. At the time that was the price as no coat had sold yet or been available for sale.

Nowadays with a set price range for the coat a range has been established for the tokens as well. If anything it still establishes a price range of around 5000 ped, it was less as he was the first. Either way it also shows that they are worth at LEAST 6 ped per thousand.

 

[renegarderose]

I rest my case. What you just said confirms what I already stated except you can't do math. It was 3.5ped/k that ace paid for the tokens.

 

[Rusty Venture]

You said walker purchased them from a player. You also said for approx 3500 PED each.

Well here's some intel im sure you've never been privy to. Two coats were sold both to ace walker for 3.5k approx. Add that to your database.

You are aware that 3500 PED / 550000 tokens required is around 6 ped per 1000 tokens? I think you should double check your math before accusing others of poor skills.

 

[krasko]

 

[Master Chief]

priceless...

 

[Master Chief]

This thread is no longer necessary; Recommendation "Extermination!"

 

[Rusty Venture]

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Yea that was before I thought about the actual value of the tokens by looking into the price of the coat. So I can see why I am angering some here as it did for myself prior.


However that screenshot is specifically about you trolling. You were pretending to buy tokens and it was ruining it for people trying to sell them at the time as they wouldn't sell to me or others and wanted to sell to you for more, except you were just trolling and not actually purchasing them.

 

[Rusty Venture]

This thread is no longer necessary; Recommendation "Extermination!"

First you tell me not to post in your thread and to instead make my own, so I post here. Then you tell me not to talk about it at all? What is wrong with discussing the value of the tokens?

Are you afraid users are suddenly going to stop undercharging for them? Worried you might have to pay the appropriate value for the coat? This is a source of funds for many noobs and non depositors on this planet.

Although you were calling the token collectors multi-accounting bots, which shows me you have not got to know them. Most of them don't even share a common language, I do not see how they could be the same person. Not to mention that they are all at the PC or AFK, not looting. AKA not being a bot as a bot would loot instantly.

 

[krasko]

Yea that was before I thought about the actual value of the tokens by looking into the price of the coat. So I can see why I am angering some here as it did for myself prior.


However that screenshot is specifically about you trolling. You were pretending to buy tokens and it was ruining it for people trying to sell them at the time as they wouldn't sell to me or others and wanted to sell to you for more, except you were just trolling and not actually purchasing them.

My offer is valid. I just don't wanna buy it from you, or the auto collecting alts in the hub!
How do you know i troll the price when you make a thread asking about their real value?

Price = Value + Demand (Basic economics)

 

[Rusty Venture]

Don't want to buy from me or anyone? I was also buying when you posted your 'offer', not selling.

I knew you were trolling the price because you were not actually buying, you said a rate and refused all people who tried to sell you at that price, accusing them of botting when not a single person bots tokens.

If you actually think anyone bots the tokens, my advice is to actually lodge some evidence, then we can know they are botting and actually not buy from them, as well as report them to MA so they can be banned. However I have spent many hours in the hub over the last couple months and can be sure there has been no botters.

 

[krasko]

Or from anyone else? I was also buying when you posted your 'offer', not selling.

I knew you were trolling the price because you were not actually buying, you said a rate and refused all people who tried to sell you at that price, accusing them of botting when not a single person bots tokens.

So when Rusty the great buy stuff we have to stay quiet?!

 

[Rusty Venture]

I have no idea what you're talking about. If you are referencing your earlier screenshot of you trolling, then pretending to buy an item makes it harder for those who are actually trying to purchase said item, correct.