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Planet Cyrene - October 2016 Update

Discussion in 'Planet Cyrene News' started by Kris | Cyrene, Oct 4, 2016.

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  1. Lilmc | Cyrene
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    Hello everyone!

    I've cleaned up a bit of clutter on this thread that was way off the original intent of this thread. Any future postings of the parties that participated in the clutter will be warned, I apologize for being brutal. This thread is for information purposes that is seen by all participants in the community. I would also like to point out feedback and suggestions is welcome from all types of players including past, new, and present players.

    Update: It appears there seems to be an issue with Moderators edits of post that will not show an post was edited.

    -Lilmc
     
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    So what's the Update as title says? and when can we expect one? Let's stay on topic.
     
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    Hey Neo.

    -Lilmc
     
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    Looks like lilmc beat me to it...
     
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    My advise is to resolve the 2 years vendor scam this should lower down the clutter to 0.
     
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    Okay, let me try. I may be off or most likely are, just telling how things look from here. I'd very much like to stand corrected, as knowing something is better than knowing nothing and relying on heuristics.

    In light of an outstanding version update which brought many long-awaited bugfixes and requested features which should acquiesce the increasingly frustrated criticism against MindArk at least for a little while, and a good deal of new content for Calypso, it seems to me that there was very little air left to breathe for the other planet partners, at least in those fields where MA's cooperation is needed to move anything forward. In the Neverdie imperium they are cooking their own thing and they've been busy, too. Very light changes on Arkadia, with people there generally happy as it is and no demand for big upheavals.

    All of this is such a stark contrast to how progress on Cyrene and Cyrene's relationship with MA present themselves. There still is no comprehensible explanation why the goddam vendor issue can't be resolved. Or any other question which forever only yields a ping-pong round between the planet and MA. Whenever there are new missions, mobs, etc. that's great, but it increasingly looks as if just serving as distraction from some deep-running issues. We can't for the life of us figure out what it is, maybe politics. Maybe it ain't so, but without any logical closure you'll never get rid of conspiracy theories. Kris & Lilmc, you're great guys and I'm sure the rest of the team is working hard, but this is falling on your feet, undermining credibility. Something's gotta give.

    If everything fails, my personal preference would be to just get my beta-state Cyrene back, the version before the Big Crunch. I made the mistake to start loving it, before it was brutally pulled from under our feet. I never fully recovered from that. Take it from there and re-add the mobs and missions we have now, sans the stuff which is forever not working and where resolution depends on parties you have no control over. I don't know what your visions for the ominous "hard launch" are, but I'd rather see us gradually morphing into it rather than in a Big Bang. Evolution is better than revolution.

    This is just me, of course. Someone else might see things differently. Especially new players who arrived after the Big Crunch, they would be accustomed to the current state and if they like it then of course they would feel the same way about it taken away. Some hate the idea of travelling longer distances, so there. But to me it is a sad and sorry image of what it was, crammed and full of patchwork, some of it like given up upon, a once beautiful dress torn and crumpled with force into a little box to maybe re-use one day as rags.

    This does not de-value the actual content which continues to be really interesting and promising. I just believe you could have been creating a greater fanbase and earning good money by avoiding this forever-preliminary state, foremost keeping the city of Janus which was gorgeous and beginning to develop estates in it. I am not extremely fond of this new housing system, I find it gives very little for very, very much money. But that's coming from a background of several years in Second Life, where you can entirely design your own stuff on your estate. So this is just to say that this isn't what I mean for estate development here. But look at how the shop life has established itself on Rocktropia. Private investors abound in all areas. There isn't much information on it transported outside, like on Entropedia. But once you're there and get familiar, you can see how everything fits together. Like the theme or not, but they've done a good job of creating a well-oiled machine. They too have suffered a disaster which sucked half the planet into a black hole and it is still missed. The community size is comparable, I'm sure it works as a possible role model. Could it be the character of the internal connection with MA is key? How do you get things done with them, and what circumstances are throwing a wrench? I suggest to take a step back from oneself and take a good, hard look.

    (Ugh. After adding one rambling paragraph after another, I no longer know if I'm making sense at all. But now that I took the time, I have to flush it out and steal your time instead. Sorry if it was wasted.)
     
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    i don't mind the lack of new content, there is plenty to do on Cyrene, i just would like some of the missions that aren't active to be turned back on. For example the Zyn Food Daily, it was turned off due to giving wrong tokens, its still off 2 years later for maybe a 2 minute job, or the find the armor mission thats in the achivement list, some parts are on the map but its not possible to start it.
    Also a New player introduction should be the Priority ahead of any new content, The amount of completly lost new players i see is sad. I ended up taking my new disciple to Caly so he gets a better introduction to the game before i return him. A iron chain with puny like 10hp mobs would be good
     
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    I was off for more than a year, but it feels, like not much has changed here :(
     
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    Maybe I'm beginning to take this a little too seriously. Where did I put my meds...
     
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    i feel you, lol :(

    // Edit:

    Alright, to be more serious. I'm quite sure that the current state of the planet is not what the Devs want here. Is it cuz of lack of their skills? I dont think so, they proven to be able to design nice things here. Lack of will or resources to finish, make things done? I doubt that as well, planet as it is gives them nothing but the pain in the #@@, and costs to maintain, so if i were them, i would drop it long time ago, unless i have resources to wait. They do, they got quite a big company that runs several other projects.
    Problem got to be somewhere else, that they can't implement things they wanted here from there start, or finally fix the bugs, that pops out every VU. It's something, probably, that they can't maintain on their own, and it's not fully in their hands.
    What can we do? Wait and see i guess. Focus on something other, if just waiting is too painful (at least it worked for me). Eventually things get back on track, and we come back. It's entropia, we always come back ;)
     
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    Is it possible to get that new fap now?
     
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    no they lied us
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    anyway that was a last step,leaving planet today and will not step on this planet till come real fix,when promises changes to acts
     
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    Well i'm dissapointed aswell, cyrene had really much potencial but ..

    Anyway i'm gonna boycott Cyrene aswell untill i see some real improvments. Maybe if we stop all to play there, they will be a bit faster to do things..
     
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    I agree,
    Don't do ARC Badges, Cyrene will scam you
    Don't do Hub coat, Cyrene will scam you
    Don't do Epic mission chain, Cyrene will scam you
    Don't Mine on Cyrene, Iron mission don't work
     
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    To my knowledge, only Blue Crystal Rank 2 is still not working, and that one is not worth mining anyway. :)
     
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    From what I've read here on cyrene forum about missing or broken stuff on cyrene I get that this is partially a PP problem but mostly that MA isnt implementing the fixes to these problems. I also understand that the PPs really can't badmouth Mindark, its simply bad for business.

    But the communication seems way off, between the PPs and MA aswell as between the PPs and the players. A fix for the fap problem was sort of promised with this VU by Kris and as of yet it doesnt seem to be fixed. I get that the PPs can't explain the game mechanics but there is lack of realistic plans in order to fix stuff, is the grad-armor coming in a few months or a few years? Is there a dialogue with MA to restock the vendors, if so, when?

    If MA won't implement the fix for the fap assembly, can't you find a way around it? Couldnt you do a manual hand in to the staff or something until its fixed? I wish for more solutions, the way it is now seems a bit complacent.
     
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    @Forum admins add this on top of newcomers area!
     
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    Hey guys,

    Just got an update from MA about our patch: there is another patch coming, it's currently building it so if nothing goes wrong it should be out in a couple of days, Tuesday next week at the latest.

    Today was the 1st I have heard anything about a 2nd Mini Patch, the way that it was explained to me was that this fix would happen today, and not in another patch a bit later.
    I didn't lie the first time when I said that the patch would bring a fix. No one told me that it was slated for a mini patch.

    I also didn't lie when they told me it would be for the mini patch, no one told me that there was going to be two of them.

    I can only report what is told to me from MA. The last thing that I want to do is tell you players that something is going to happen and it doesn't.

    To effectively communicate with the player base we need to have better communication of what is coming, and when, otherwise the thing that is happening with the Epic Mission Chain would happen more often. While fixes are always on the radar, some of them are things that we can fix ourselves and get pushed out by MA, others are more complicated and can ONLY be fixed with MA.

    Some of the things that are mentioned here is part of what is holding back hard launch. I want to give an effective date for many of the current bugs/complaints but until I can say for sure what is fixed and when, it would be unwise to do so.

    I do want to improve communication, especially with the things that I mentioned in the first post of this thread, those are things that I know we put out. I plan to post the first one about booths this week.

    If I can get MA to spawn a FAP to me I am able to then trade it over the players who have all the pieces required to make it, however, there will be no discovery for anyone involved. I also think that sort of could be considered more of a last resort. If anything makes the next patch not go through or if the patch happens but the item cannot be refined this was already my contingency plan.

    I'll be eagerly awaiting the next patch to see if this gets resolved.

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    Any news about the ARC SCAM?
     
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    Another VU where nothing happens on Cyrene. Sad to say twice in a row now.

    Nothing got fixed, no new content, no new missions, yet why am I not surprised?
     
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