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Proposed Cyrene TEN Event for December 20th 2013 - December 22nd 2013 POSTPONED

Discussion in 'Planet Cyrene News' started by Kris | Cyrene, Dec 6, 2013.

  1. AxeMurderer
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    ops, I don't want to be the one explaining all this :)
     
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    Hey guys,

    While it is unfortunate that the TEN Event is not happening this weekend, to be fair it was a PROPOSED event and definitely NOT set in stone and ended up NOT being approved by MindArk. This event was not advertised by us in anyway as we needed to see if this event was going to be viable for MindArk or not.

    We here at Planet Cyrene work hard with MindArk to make a fun planet for all types of players to play on and there are many loyal Cyrene players who would be here playing with our without any sort of event. As for the players that came ONLY for the event and who will not bother trying to even see what Planet Cyrene is about, then it's your loss.

    For the players that have remained loyal and stayed on Planet Cyrene during this time I'm working with Ed now to set up some alternate events for these players.

    We will be working with MindArk this week to try and get our TEN event out and approved.

    Cheers,
    Kris
     
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    To be fair, the word PROPOSED has not been anywhere in this thread until post #42. If I missed this word somewhere, please point it out for me. And to be even more fair I was going off of this other sentence...

    """The Cyrene TEN Event starts at 00:00:01 on Saturday December 20th 2013 and ends at 23:59:59 on Sunday December 22nd 2013. (all times server time)"""

    it also says (all times server time) so this Friday/Saturday flaw cant bail you out of anything either.

    If I was the only person that had a problem with this, I may try and see where I went wrong here. However, I am not the only person that it calling this out. You have several other respected players who have a big problem with this.

    And now you come out and say you are not at fault!?!?!
     
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    The true mark of a leader is grace under pressure.

    I don't envy Kris and other Cyrene staff in firefighting this problem. This might go down as one in a long list of EU epic fails.

    However I think there is more than one side to the "Cyrene Fu##ed up" point of view.
     
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    Hey Jabez JAG Groove,

    Sure. It's in the title of the thread:
    Proposed Cyrene TEN Event for December 20th 2013 - December 22nd 2013

    There was a mismatch on the date and day of the week, very unfortunate, it also doesn't seem fair/wise to force players to play for such a long time span (I think that 48 hours is the limit in one sitting). We posted it as soon as we were able and even made a special announcement in the client loader (as Technophile-Panda suggested).

    This isn't the first time we've tried to have a TEN Event and it's not the first time we've had it not happen either: >>LINK<< , with other player suggested things here: >>LINK<<. We try and work to achieve something that not only Players want but also what MindArk will allow us to do. Posts like this and previous linked ones allow players to weigh in on things that they like or don't like and allow us to change things we need to make events players like. In fact there was nothing that I wanted to happen more than a successful TEN Event for Planet Cyrene and show many players who have never even been here just what Cyrene has to offer. It just didn't end up panning out that way, as it was NOT approved by MindArk.

    Regards,
    Kris
     
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    oh, even more wow - unbelievable.
    You misspellt the word proposed as 'proposted', so I, for one, didn't realise and thought you meant something with 'posted'... then you change it in the title and don't even admit that!!!!
    And telling potential visitors willing to spend quite a bit that it is 'their loss' if they 'ONLY' come for an event is pretty much guaranteeing that a percentage of those will make sure they actively NEVER try the planet out (again).

    As you know, I've spent a reasonable time on Cyrene, but lessened my activity to effectively zero. I know the good things on Cyrene, but also the not so good.... that's more than most people can say, and it may well stay that way.
     
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    Hey all,

    Instead of trying to point fingers and place blame as the planet partner, MindArk, players or person hosting the events I would look for an amicable solution that recognizes the players be it ones that frequent Cyrene or ones that are coming even if it is their first time for an event and to see what the planet is about.

    Something that everyone forgets is that planet Cyrene, MindArk, Planet Calypso, Arkadia, RockTropia, Big Industries, Entropialife, La Owners, Apartment owners, land deed owners, basically anyone who plays this RCE are all part of a platform and a community. By trying to say that anyone person is not as important is alienating yourself and or your planet from the rest of the platform. For everyone to do well we have to work as a team and identify problems such as this event and figure out ways to fix them. Kris I know you are trying to do right but lets look for a solution and not use the blame finger. We all have a degree of fault and being able to admit that represents strong leadership, don't alienate the people who showed up because they believed a post and the client loader for something that looked like it was an official event.

    MindArk is generally easy to work with, to figure out when to run events etc. We work with them and the Planet Calypso team to place large scale events for our land areas that do not interfere with other planned events. Ultimately we want the player experience to be good and a little bit of planning before announcements goes a long way.

    I hope you get this all sorted with the community, the planet has some great mechanics and mobs, I do enjoy coming here. Getting a larger player base would help the economy of the planet so that things like crafting and trading would be much more possible. New and Old player retention helps the platform on all planets.

    Cheers,
    Salty
     
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    Now it says Proposed:wise: You changed the title after I asked where it was:alcohol: Simply, unbelievable:openmouth: It would have looked much better on your end if you would have just come out and said you were wrong:banghead: It looks really bad when you keep trying to cover your:monkey_slap:
     
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    drama queen :D
     
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    Rofl, epic fail. Editing the title like that Kris. We all knew it said proposted, would've been better if you came clean and admit you spelt wrong, that's nothing compared to trying to cover it up.

    As for the rest of you whiners. Next time you know not to come to our planet until the event has actually started.

    And stop your whining, we all make mistakes. It was simply a "proposted" instead of "proposed".

    As for Kris, better not announce events unless they been approved by MA.. less hassle that way.

    Back to the whiners chill the fu*k down and go kill some holiday jellyworm while ya at it.
     
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    Wait? What? I have to start checking forum posts for gramatical errors too?

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    Just messing with ya Kris :nana:
     
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    i think that most likely, event was close enough to be approved, to make Kris post it this way. Im sure he did it only to make us players happy, and able to win some prizes. it couldnt happen for some reason, but what have we lost? we lose peds hunting when there are no globals anyway. ofc its a fali this way, but well, tokens earned in arenas can be spent, recon made on spots can be a value too, somehow. :kos:
     
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    This really is amateur hour isen't it? never mind publicly announcing a event without talking it out 100% with the event sponsor, on top of that the so called TEN event will most likely not happen on the right year... because you are aware that its pretty much impossible to get a hold of someone over here in Sweden during the Christmas/New year holiday right? I will be extremely surprised if the event happens in 2013, even more so if its anything but a standard X amount of globals = X amount of points.

    But hey, its only a TEN anniversary event so the right year doesn't really matter... right?

    Merry Christmas
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    I'll hold hope that a good solution can be found to create a win win for both players and the planet partner, I empathize with the frustrations of everyone who participated, as we hold developers to a standard, and should. However I also empathize with Kris, trying to push something forward that probably holds a level of complexity the rest of us don't see from the outside. Many of us have tripped in an effort to do something right, be it our fault or the fault of others that we could not reign in. Best of luck to all parties in finding a reasonable solution. -- My 2 pecs
     
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    Rather than let something like this divide us. I'm thinking could we not work together to create our own solution?

    We have EntropiaLife tracking software which is sometimes used for player events. Could we not use that to formulate an appropriate event?

    This approach has it's downsides. It won't be what we players want, what cyrene wants, or what MindArk would be happy with. In fact something no one wants :)

    However, looking at the positives I think we are all mature enough to understand the situation here. No one is really to blame except circumstance, or if we do need to blame then we are all to blame equally are we not? MindArk were probably too busy working on something they believed to be crucial to be spare time to set this up in such short notice (e.g. taming, not saying thats what they are working on just something as an example). We players for being downright untrustable scumbags otherwise we could set up events without any rules :)
    hope you get the idea...


    Anyway despite the setbacks and the fact it won't be exactly what we want could we get this off the ground? What say you all?
     
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    Entropia Life will fully Support any data tracking needs Cyrene would request of us in this or any other instance, I think you are on the right track there George.
     
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    Looks promising. Now we need players, Cyrene and MA onboard :)

    edit:
    One major problem I foresee will be how to track pvp in the hub. Can EntropiaLife help there? it can track discoveries but can it track pvp hof's? or updated at short notice so that it can?
     
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    The PvP end is a bit more complicated yes, I've messaged Kris to discuss, and if they're open to our help we'll see what we can pull off, PvP kills are indicated in the chat.log file so we could potentially track them, however we would need multiple Tracker clients running on Cyrene to ensure the validity of these as we require with all data. I'm sure a concerted effort combined with our programs, Cyrene, and the players would allow this to come to fruition if it proves a rational solution to the issue by the powers that be.
     
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    I have you read your own post? If you don't read the title and just the text is sounds like a event that are going to happen, ending it with, "Good Luck and have fun!". Rely missleading....
     
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    Damn, i remember password.. somehow.. i guess it was important i bump in with my thoughts :)
    Everyone are human, people can do mistake so they do better next time, Kris wanted to do this event for us, but it seems to much on he's hands and miss calculated a stop from Mindark, anyway its X-Mas in 2 days.. Happy X-Mas everyone :)

    //Best Regards zZz Sliver XzZz
     
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